Hands-On Photography Episode 113 Transcript
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Today on Hands-On Photography. We're not going to talk about that biggest baddest camera that's out there. We're going to talk about smartphone cameras and particularly all of the capabilities in there. And I have an amazing guest that's gonna walk us through what he's doing this with his trustee smartphone and why for now he is put down his trustee handy micro for thirds camera y'all stay tuned.
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Ant Pruitt (01:36):
Hey, what's going on everybody. I am Matt Pruit, and this is Hands-On Photography here on TWiTt TV. Hope y'all are do on. Well, I am unbelievable as always on yet another fine Thursday where I get to sit down and share different tips and tricks that are gonna help make you a better photographer and a better post processor because they do go hand in hand and every now and then I get just honored and lucky and less to be able to sit down with some amazing professional photographers out here and just have them sit down and chit chat and share different tips that they use in their day to day. Photography workflow that I think is not only gonna help me, but it's gonna help you as well. And today is one of those days, but before we jump to our guests, I wanna say welcome to everybody.
Ant Pruitt (02:27):
That's catching the show for the very first time. Welcome to you. Now that you're here, go ahead and hit subscribing whatever podcast application you're enjoying us on. I don't care if it's the apple one or the Google one or the Spotify one, or even the YouTube channel. We're we're, we're on all, all of those, all of those different platforms. But if you're having issues, trying to figure out the best way to subscribe, just head on over to the website, TWiT.tv/hop that TWiT.tv/HOP for Hands-On Photography. And you'll see all of the subscription options there as well as our previous episodes and show notes with all of the wonderful nuggets of information. Now, with that out of the way, I want to introduce today. Guess this is someone I've I've met a couple years ago. After moving here to the bay area, he is actually quite legendary in the space, in legendary in the photography space. He's doing a lot of stuff with bird photography, amongst other things, and just a flat out amazing veteran in just this great steward to the photography community. And I'm talking about the one in only Mr. Scott Bourne. How you doing, sir?
Scott Bourne (03:39):
Still not dead. <Laugh>
Ant Pruitt (03:42):
Nope. You're still not dead. And I am grateful for that. <Laugh>
Scott Bourne (03:46):
Yeah, I, I managed to hang on this long <laugh> I do have a cold. I do wanna mention that. So my voice is a little scratchy. I apologize.
Ant Pruitt (03:54):
Well, that's okay. You, you, you, you still sound fine to me and you look good here on screen, you know, cause I know you'd normally do on your audio podcast. But what is this? I, I noticed you have this, this hat on your head. I see the camo, but there's an interesting little symbol on there. What is
Scott Bourne (04:09):
That? First of all, if you see the camo, it's not working, I'm trying to hide from the iron <laugh>. But see I wear camo every day, cause I'm a bird photographer and every day the phone rings and says there's a blah, blah, blah, 15 minutes from here. I ain't got time to put on different clothes, so I just stay ready. This is my go bag shirt. Nice. But this hat proves I'm hip cuz that right there mm-hmm <affirmative> is the dark glass logo. So I'm a bass player and dark glass is the favored amplification system of metal bass please. Well, I have a camo hat with a dark glass logo, so I should get a little bit of pass on the cool issue.
Ant Pruitt (04:46):
<Laugh> I think you'll get the pass, sir. I think you'll get the pass. And I love that idea that, that right there, that just shows a professional that's that's dialed in his game. You know, you, you get into bird photography and that that's clearly your passion and when the opportunity is there, you're able to take it. You're ready to take it. And that's just a simple two second thought of a life hack, if you will. Hey, how about just be dressed for the occasion
Scott Bourne (05:12):
<Laugh> and being ready? Well, you know, it's not like wedding photography where the bride's gonna show up when she says she went on Saturday. Mm-Hmm <affirmative>, that's something you can always count on. Mm-Hmm <affirmative> you can't on the groom by the way, but you can't play <laugh> and in perfect photography, we photograph things that can fly. Right. And don't wanna be anywhere near us. Right. Right. So we kind of gotta the camo doesn't actually hide us from the birds. What it does is it just keeps them from being startled cuz fast movement is what's Arnold. So I stay ready and you know, pre pandemic 300 days a year I'm outdoor shooting.
Ant Pruitt (05:49):
Unbelievable. I, I envy you so much. I've spoken about wildlife and, and bird photography on the show a couple times and have mentioned you and Mr. Rick salmon and just everything that y'all done. And one of these days I'm gonna get as good as you all, but I'm still gonna keep working at it and have fun doing it. But you, you mentioned the pandemic and, and that, that has been just a, a ridiculous instance for all of us here around the world and this affected our careers one way or another. And especially on their creative artist side of things, you know, people had conferences and speaking engagements that they were doing regularly throughout the year photo shoots or, or video content creation that they would do throughout the year. That things just totally changed now. Yes. I know birds are still going to continue to fly in the pandemic, but things have changed for you. And I've noticed that you've been pivoting a little bit going, you're still doing your bird photography, but I've noticed that you've also picked up one of these trustees, smartphones and started to just dial in your game on those. Can, can you tell us a little bit about
Scott Bourne (06:57):
That? This thing right here? Mm-Hmm <affirmative> well, here's the deal. Okay. So I used to be a cannon shooter mm-hmm <affirmative> and I've had a bunch of shoulder surgeries, health problems. I'm old, I'm officially older than dirt <laugh> and you know, when you get old, you can't do some of the same things you used to do. You're not as strong. You can't hand hold an 800 millimeter lens. So about five, a little more than five years ago, I switched to micro four thirds mm-hmm <affirmative> and brought into the Olympus system because they had good ability to get me some reach with their telephoto lenses. But the gear was lighter and smaller. I was honored, blessed, and fortunate enough to have the honor of my lifetime. When they called me, after they found out that I had switched and say, would you be an Olympus visionary?
Scott Bourne (07:41):
By the way, they did not pay me to switch. And I'm sad about that, but <laugh>, they, they, they made me a vision and I was visionary for about five years and I enjoyed every second of it. I still enjoy Olympus. I love them. However, mm-hmm <affirmative> over the last five years, the phone calls for video have gone up and fewer editors just want my still photographs. Right. And, and more importantly, since I do this for a living, the dollar amounts for video have gone up and the dollar amounts for stills have gone down. Yeah. And I have expensive tastes
Ant Pruitt (08:15):
<Laugh> so you expensive tastes. No <laugh> I
Scott Bourne (08:18):
Need, I need to a couple of bucks here and there. So I, you know, I've been messing with video for 10 years, but I just, I resisted it resisted, resist. Well, then I got a couple of offers to become, you know, like a cinematographer on a couple of docs. Mm-Hmm <affirmative> for doing some bird wildlife stuff that I have particular expertise for. And so I had to resign my Olympus visionary status because as I was gonna have to switch cameras, right. And we thought everything was cool. And then the pandemic flared up again. Oh, of course. And those two productions are put on hold for a year. Hmm. But now what am I gonna do? And then I thought, you know, what's the camera that everybody always has with them, smart smartphone. And in my case, iPhone, you know, I spent my whole life basically online and trying to help people understand, enjoy, improve, and get better at photography.
Scott Bourne (09:11):
Right. I started photo focus, believe it or not 20 he, geez. What, 22 years ago I had no idea that site had been around long that long photo.com 24 years ago, November 2nd, 1998. It's almost 24 years. So I've been doing it online as long as anybody and I wanna help people. So I thought, you know, I'm gonna use the camera everybody has with them and I'm gonna see what happens. So I still started a year long project on January 5th where I'm just using my iPhone 13 pro is my main camera for video and stills with two tiny caveats. Mm-Hmm <affirmative> I still have a couple of small contracts where for a couple of weeks, I'll have to use my real cinema cameras, but everything else I'm gonna do on an iPhone and I'm gonna find way is to make it work. It's particularly challenging as a bird photographer.
Scott Bourne (09:59):
Since there aren't any 600 millimeter lenses on iPhone <laugh> so I'm taking not yet scoping. Not yet. You're right. Yeah. I'm taking up dig scoping. I'm doing a bunch of stuff, but the footage that I'm getting from the iPhone both still and video particularly started me was the video mm-hmm <affirmative> it blew my mind because I was using a black magic six K pro cinema camera. Mm-Hmm <affirmative> okay. Now that's a, you know, that shoots an incredible beautiful file at six K ProRes native. And then I went and I was shooting with the iPhone 13 pro and it shoots 4k 4, 2, 2, 4, 2, 2. Yep. Pro Rez video. And I was like, I bet it's pro re light. Nope. It's pro re HQ. And then I found this app called filmic pro, which I really love, love, love every day. And it gives you all the kind of controls over the iPhone that I have over the black man.
Scott Bourne (10:57):
Yeah. And so I then went into post in the final cut and I put the ProRes footage from the black magic up against the ProRes footage from the iPhone. They graded well together. They looked and meshed well together. I showed 'em with 10 or 12 people. And I said, tell me, which one of these came from an iPhone mm-hmm nobody could get it right. And I said, well, what the heck, why am I gonna carry this big, heavy thing? Mm-Hmm <affirmative> if I can do it with this mm-hmm <affirmative>. So then I started messing around with another product called first light. That film makes, which is a, an app that, that helps your camera work more like a DSLR. And there's others moment makes a camera app that's from first light. It gives you all the controls. You need the same thing you'd have on a DSLR mm-hmm <affirmative>.
Scott Bourne (11:41):
And I started making still images. And then, because I'm an old guy I print, I still make prints back in my day. We used to make prints as the backup <laugh> before there were computers. And it's this hard concept for young people to understand there weren't always computers. Yeah. And so we would make a print and then if we lost a negative, we could take a picture of the print. And so I started making some stills and I was like, I'm gonna print these 16 by nine. They look great. Yeah. And then I used hope has giga blew 'em up to 20 by 30. They still agree. Oh yeah. Yeah. And I'm thinking to myself, okay, this is, this is what I'm gonna do for a year. I'm just gonna use this as my camera and so much so that I bought another iPhone. And that iPhone is the one I talk on and use the map function in CarPlay and all that stuff. And then I've dedicated this one just and treated like a camera it's in my camera back. I
Ant Pruitt (12:38):
Love it. I love it. I've talked about first light and also spoken about film it pro cuz I I've used them from time to time. You care to share some of your, your insight far as the tools that are inside of film it and, and the tools inside of first light, because it's, again, it is, it is amazing. It's available on both iOS and Android. I think it is a little bit better on the iOS side of things from a functionality standpoint, but you still get a lot of the, the, the same beautiful footage from video or still you care to share some of some information about those tools.
Scott Bourne (13:17):
Also, when I'm talking about double take, cause that's a free app. And that was actually the thing that got me to buy the iPhone 11 when they did the iPhone 11 rollout. Yeah. Film was on stage demonstrating how you could take this camera that has three lenses mm-hmm <affirmative> and shoot videos simultaneously. Mm-Hmm <affirmative> from two of them. <Laugh> and it looks like you, you know, you do an MC a medium close up with one and a wide shot with the other. And it's like, now wait a minute. How is this even possible? And you can record it as two discreet video stream. Yeah. You can record it as picture and picture or you can record it as side by side. Now normally you gotta set up to take two shots. You gotta set up a wide camera. Yep. And a closeup camera. Yeah. But now you don't
Ant Pruitt (14:08):
And, and hope that there, that the one camera is doing just fine as you're attending to the other camera.
Scott Bourne (14:14):
Yes. You're a one man or one, one lady band. Yep. You can't run, you know, it's impossible to check 'em both. And the limitation is it only shoots in 10 80 P but then again, 90% of the television in the world aren't 4k. So it looks great. Exactly. And you can upscale it if you need to, but it's just to me, it's like science fiction. Now this app is free. It's free. Mm-Hmm <affirmative> and, and no reason not to play with that. So I was messing around with that at Ballade. But the, the thing about filming pro is you have every kind of control that you want as a cinematographer. You can do things like you know, you can use your zebras, you can use focus, peeking mm-hmm <affirmative> you can adjust very precisely, you know, shutter angle. You can pick any code you want.
Scott Bourne (15:06):
And it is, it's just crazy how well all it works. Mm-Hmm <affirmative>. Now, if you move down from now, this, this is a screenshot of it set to pro re 4 22 HQ. If you move down to something like 10 80 P or you move down to just standard vlog or log, I should say mm-hmm <affirmative> then, then you can even use a bunch of cool presets that they have. They have like lots you can apply in camera. This is very sophisticated stuff. Now people that don't do video may not appreciate all this jargon, but this is what you do with expensive cinema cameras. Yep. And it's an iPhone, the thing that's in your pocket now it does need a lot of storage. So that's one of the reasons why apple made the iPhone 13 available with a bigger storage allotment. It costs more right. They had to <laugh>.
Scott Bourne (15:57):
Yeah, because it, you know, the top quality footage you get about, if you were to empty your iPhone and shoot at the highest rate in filming pro you get about two hours of footage before you run outta storage, but you can always dump that off and, and then start again. But it, the, the limitations are minor. The ability to put this camera in places that you can't put a big camera, our major, and now there's adaptive lenses. So I'm trying a bunch of different cases. I've tried cases from moment. I'm using a case from polar pro right now. Mm-Hmm <affirmative> you can put different lenses on these things to give yourself some more reach mm-hmm <affirmative>. But then I found out about Digi scoping <laugh> and a monster was unleashed. Oh boy, tell us, tell us about this. So you can take a field optic, you know, you're thinking like, you know, binoculars or a big field scope.
Scott Bourne (16:51):
Mm-Hmm <affirmative> a, and attach it to an iPhone. Yeah. <laugh> now I realize <laugh>, I'm going back the other direction a little bit here, because that's a heavy optic, but it's still not as heavy as carrying the big DSR and the optic. So, you know, we were excited. We get out to 800 millimeters as a bird photographer because you know, like I say, birds don't generally want to hang out with us and oh yeah. They can fly mm-hmm <affirmative> so that's an issue. So if you're far away and you're not stressing them, which is important to me, cuz I'm actually an ornithologist first in a photographer second. Right. I, you know, I love being able to be far away from, well with my brand new Kawa, Ts 99, I can do 3000 millimeters. No problem. Mm unbelievable. On an iPhone. Unbelievable. Yeah. It's it's insane. So now my ability to reach far is solved. I will be explor exploring some other lenses that do that. But bottom line is even if I didn't adding lenses, this is basically if you buy the iPhone 13 pro or Promax, it's basically got a 24 to 70 zoom range, you know, let's got three lenses, that's the walk around lens for 90% of the photographer. I know
Ant Pruitt (18:05):
Exactly, exactly. So
Scott Bourne (18:06):
You've got what you need in your, and what it really starts making it possible to do is to concentrate on what you, what you see mm-hmm <affirmative> and not the gear. And for all the beginners, I know everybody is stuck in like what F stop and what camera should I buy and what lens should I use? But as you get further down your path in photography, you'll realize the gold comes in being able to spend all your time thinking mm-hmm <affirmative> about telling a story mm-hmm <affirmative> and the less the camera is on your mind, the better.
Ant Pruitt (18:44):
Yeah, totally agree. Basically, you wanna just be able to frame up your shot and be ready to shoot without all of the, oh, should I be at this shutter speed and this ISO yeah. And the phones, they, they really do help with that, with all of the computational photography stuff. Nowadays, we've talked about that on this show before as a matter of fact, we've had friend mutual friend, Mr. Jefferson Graham on previously talking about his, his experience with the, with the iPhone in particular, but just smartphone in general and, and how he's been leveling up his photography and just, just doing amazing photo walks and some stuff he's shown has just been absolutely beautiful. And you look at it and you're like, oh wow. That came from a phone. We've come a long way.
Scott Bourne (19:29):
<Laugh> oh yeah. Listen, I, I, I gotta tell you, I feel, I very lucky to have lived long enough to have seen this, to see this thing that I can carry in my shirt pocket that does footage that 10 years ago, I wasn't getting out of 5,000 cameras.
Ant Pruitt (19:43):
Right, right. Imagine that right. <Laugh> and to
Scott Bourne (19:46):
Be, and on the video side, to be able to do the quality that you can, it's just, it's flying to me and they keep trying to make it better. Yeah. I, I mean, it, it is amazing. And I know there's a lot of bias about, well, you need a real pro camera mm-hmm <affirmative> mm-hmm <affirmative> and you know, having a pro camera doesn't make you pro no, no. Having a pro set of eyes
Ant Pruitt (20:09):
Provision is what helps. Yeah. Basically provision.
Scott Bourne (20:12):
And I like to think that if you give me a, a box camera from 1950, I'll be able to make an image with it that I can sell. Cause that's what I do for a living. Yeah. I, I license my photography license, my video. I have to be able to do that. Cause I'm fat. I like to eat, you know, it's hard to eat your, so I have to get paid. So this year I'm putting it on the line. I am going to license my footage. I've already licensed one picture that I made a bulls gay with an iPhone 13 pro that's. Just to me that this opens up a whole new world, because think about people who, you know, can't carry heavy gear for whatever reason. Mm-Hmm, <affirmative> older people. People who are, you know, have disabilities people who are mobility limited, this opens up all kinds of opportunities for, because they're not gonna carry a fully rigged out re camera <laugh> with a pan vision lens and a, you know, $25,000 fluid head to the, you know, local. They're not doing that. You know, and you don't need that. And, and by the way, the stabilization that you can get in filmic pro now. Yeah. You don't even need a gimble. My friend. Yeah.
Ant Pruitt (21:20):
It's so it's smooth. It's cinematic. It is so smooth. Now you you've been talking about these videos. You, you sent me a couple of videos that, that I, that I could
Scott Bourne (21:30):
Share for the show. I'm driving down the road at Dale, Apache New Mexico. Okay. Mm-Hmm <affirmative> this is literally unfolding as I'm driving. Mm. I can't stop the car. Get out my black magic cinema camera. It takes 30 seconds to boot it up. Get it set up on the trunk iPod. Yeah. These geese are flying over this tree, which happens to perfectly be framing the sunrise. They're not gonna wait. Just beautiful. Just so I've got my, I got one hand on the steering wheel pretty much. And one hand holding the phone and I get this footage. It, it, it was, you know, if you see it on Vimeo in full it's, there's no banding. There's no, it's really nice. And I'm like, absolutely beautiful. And this is just, just, I pull the car is running <laugh>. I mean, pull the car over. I'm on a dirt road.
Scott Bourne (22:21):
I see this, I roll the window down real quick. I grab the phone, I press record. And you know, I pan with the birds handheld with what, my right hand, still on the steering wheel, Uhhuh <affirmative>. And I looked at the footage and I went, holy, holy <laugh>. And, and I just, to me, it was a very freeing experience. And it was like, I got footage of a beautiful seven, eight seconds. And by the way, lots of videos are compiled based on seven or eight seconds of this center that mm-hmm <affirmative>. And I thought, you know, this is really important that I explore this and I wanna make it clear that I think most photography education comes from the process of discovery. In other words, you can't be what you can't see. And I want people to get permission, so to speak mm-hmm <affirmative> if they see someone who's getting paid for this stuff, doing it, and you can see the results, they get it, frees them up to say, well, if he can do it, I can do it. And trust. Yes. I'm one of those people. If I can do it, anybody can do it. <Laugh> cause I'm at least amongst you. But it, it is crazy to think that, you know, people may not know how much power is in their pocket. And you mentioned Jefferson, we do a show together called the iPhone photo show podcast. Mm-Hmm <affirmative> and a lot of the questions we get are, are, are feature requests. And we, we have to tell people, well that feature's already there. Right. They
Ant Pruitt (23:47):
Don't even know it. Right. Didn't even know it. I could
Scott Bourne (23:49):
Do it. So yeah, it, it really is quite good. And I think you have another video that I actually, by the way, that footage you just saw there mm-hmm <affirmative>, that's just straight outta camera. Unbelievable.
Ant Pruitt (24:01):
Ungraded. Unbelievable. Now this one here, though, this is ridiculous. Just next level. It's just honking.
Scott Bourne (24:12):
Oh,
Ant Pruitt (24:14):
Unbelievable. And this is with the phone. Yeah. Now you get an, the bird sound and this is from the, the, the phones microphones that captured it.
Scott Bourne (24:34):
So, so that's the other thing you can attach real microphones. Yep. You know, and do all kinds stuff. Road makes this thing called the micro AI bit, but that will basically adapt any microphone with a 3.5 millimeter connection to an iPhone. In fact, you can put two in it once mm-hmm <affirmative> it, it also works with computers. It works as an interface.
Ant Pruitt (24:59):
And, and what's that? What is that called again? Roads?
Scott Bourne (25:01):
What road? Micro AI. It's one of AI, 80 bucks, a little expensive, but one of the problems is some mics work better than others. When, you know, ever since apple had the genius idea to take the 3.5 millimeter Jack out. <Laugh>
Ant Pruitt (25:17):
I take a, you're pretty happy about that decision. Yeah.
Scott Bourne (25:21):
If it were up to me that guy's next line would be, would you like fries with that? <Laugh> I'm hoping someday again, hope they'll put it back in, but you gotta, you know, you gotta connect everything to the phone somehow. Right. For those that don't have the luxury that I do of having an audio background and I use a separate field recorder. I use a, a very expensive, dedicated field recorder. That's there just like you see on a movie set with a guy with a boom bowl. Mm-Hmm <affirmative> I'm recording audio into that device and then I'm, I'm matching it up in post. But I have occasionally when it's running gun, when I just, you know, like when I do have one of those it's enveloping right in front of me. Yeah. I've always got a mic right there and I, I can just go with that sound. And in a couple of cases, I have have used the microphones mm-hmm <affirmative> on the camera and they're good enough that with some sweetening in post
Ant Pruitt (26:16):
That's what I was gonna say with the iPhone microphone and they're noise canceling capability on it. Oh, no, wait, now
Scott Bourne (26:23):
Mm-Hmm, <affirmative> not on the 13 though.
Ant Pruitt (26:27):
Not on the, there's a bug.
Scott Bourne (26:30):
Oh, it doesn't work on the 13th. Oh. And apple has kind of been wishy washy about acknowledging it or whether or not it's a bug or a feature or whether or not it'll be back or it won't, but oh, the 12 and the 11 do have the noise can, but it doesn't really matter because if you're standing in nature, mm-hmm, <affirmative>, there's not a whole lot of like street car sounds true. And if you're just trying to get bird honking as I go by, it works. I also occasionally use it as a scratch track. Mm-Hmm <affirmative> just so that I can match up the stuff that I do with my FX six. And my other big microphones, I, I have to say that there's a lot of power here. Mm-Hmm <affirmative> and one of the advantages to recording ProRes by the way is that you can record in 48.1, not 44, right? Not a big deal, but you know, a little better audio quality. Yep. Every little bit helps. And the fact that they, they built this in is pretty cool. So I'm gonna forgive him on the audio Jack, you buy the $80 device and you connect any mic you want
Ant Pruitt (27:33):
To the iPhone, you'll forgive him this time.
Scott Bourne (27:35):
<Laugh> this time, but it is on my wishlist. I'm trying to get a meeting with Tim cook. I've been trying for this meeting for six years, but anyway, <laugh>, I have to get, I have to get, I have to get ahold of Justine, our friend Justine. She can get I Justine.
Ant Pruitt (27:48):
Yeah, <laugh> outstanding. Well, Mr. Bo, this has been a lot of fun and a lot of information. I, we've been talking about video here a little bit more on the show. You know, I've done a couple episodes of just walking through the video editing process, just doing simple cuts and things of that nature. And we're gonna continue and, and dig into using whatever camera you have. It doesn't necessarily have to be this black magic six K that I'm staring into right now. Yeah. Doesn't have to be. And it
Scott Bourne (28:23):
Is good. It's still great for still starry too. Like I say, use an app like the moment camera app mm-hmm <affirmative> or first, you know, first light or any one of these apps. And there's a whole bunch of apps. There's apps that let you do long exposures. Yep. Hyperlapse, which is a fun app for doing crazy time. Lapses. The thing, the TimeLapse capability on this thing, my friend Jefferson just makes TimeLapse is almost every day that are just mind blowing.
Ant Pruitt (28:47):
It's so much easier to do TimeLapse on the phone versus with the traditional yeah. Body cameras. If you will. I'll just say it does all the work
Scott Bourne (28:56):
For you. Mm-Hmm <affirmative> in fact, the other day I set up a TimeLapse. I live on the backside of Olympic national park, out the woods. I put my iPhone on a motorized <affirmative> on
Ant Pruitt (29:06):
A slide on a slider. Oh,
Scott Bourne (29:07):
Nice. And you know, I'm just like, come on, <laugh> this it too much fun. It's just, it should be illegal. Now. I, you know, I, I gotta say it's, it's the best part about photography for me, aunt is it's what keeps me alive. You know, it's, it's my reason for living. It's the only thing I'm good at. And, and it's the only thing that matters in my life. And the fact that I still get to do it every time I get to do it, I'm grateful. And every time I get to share my stories with somebody, however, I make them which, whatever tool I use, mm-hmm, <affirmative>, I'm grateful. And photography is a gift. Those of us that do it, I call us high priest and priests of memory protection. <Laugh>, we're, we're out there protecting memories of our own for other people of certain places, in my case of lots of birds. And it's, it's a true calling and it's not something to be taken lightly. It's my, it's my joy. And I'm so glad to talk about it with you. And if ever, I can do anything to help any of your audience just to reach out. And I'm happy to try to share my experience and do the best I can
Ant Pruitt (30:13):
For. They will definitely reach out, tell us where we can find you and, and some of the things that you've been working on and that well, we, so stuff that you can actually share. Let us know what we can find you all these
Scott Bourne (30:25):
Secrets. <Laugh> I I'm on the every Friday now with my friend, Jefferson Graham from USA today, former tech columns from USA today, and current host of photo walks, TV series, which is shot almost exclusively on an iPhone, by the way. Yep. We do a podcast together called the iPhone photo show and it said iPhone photo show.com. I'm on the TWiTtter at Scott born. S C O T T B O U R N E. And I'm writing for photo focus again. Even though I founded it in 1998, I sold it to rich Harrington, my buddy, but I'm still occasion a contributor there, and I'm gonna start doing a mobile column every other Monday, I think. And is he I'm, I'm like a, I'm like a bad penny. You can't get rid of me an I'm everywhere. <Laugh> so outstanding. And you can email me Scott it's Scott, born.com. I answer my own email. So if I can help, I want
Ant Pruitt (31:19):
To outstanding for Mr. Bo. Thank you again so much for your time. I really do appreciate you coming on the show and sharing, know of this knowledge with our audience.
Scott Bourne (31:29):
So thankful to being invited have a good day. <Laugh>
Ant Pruitt (31:32):
You too, sir. All right, everybody. That was wow. Just a, a, a massive knowledge dump on us today. And I am really, really grateful for it. And quite honestly, I just love the fact that he's, he's just reiterating the stuff that a lot of us already know, but we just don't quite live it. If you will, these smartphones, they really are capable. You know, it, it, there's some things that a larger image sensor is gonna be able to help you, you know, capture better. Yeah. But a lot of the stuff that we can, that we want to capture day to day life, whether it's video or photos can be handled on a smartphone. And I appreciate him continuing to push that message out. Right. So folks that is it for this week's episode. Thank you all for the continued support. Again, be sure to subscribe in whatever podcast application you enjoy us on in particular, if you're an apple podcast user, make sure you hit the little rating options in there and give me a star rating.
Ant Pruitt (32:33):
You know, I'm not gonna be upset if you leave me five star ratings, I promise you I won't get upset with that. And also make sure to put a comment down there. Cuz what that does is apple will work its little secret sauce and algorithmic magic and help push Hands-On Photography up in the ratings and help other people discover the show. All right. So if you do that for me, I'm forever grateful. Also, if you have any questions, comments, feed, feel free to shoot me an email hop, TWiT.tv. Again, it's hop TWiT.tv. I am still going through our sunrise photography challenge. That show will be coming up really, really soon. And we're gonna go through those images and have a lot of fun with it. And you can also give me a follow over on the social medias. I am Ant underscore Pruitt on Twitter. I am also Ant underscore Pruitt on Instagram. All right, thanks again for the support. Thank you to my man, Mr. Victor for making me look and sound good each and every week. Now, even though this is still the crazy pandemic safely create and dominate and we will catch you next time. Y'all take care.
