Hands-On Tech 179 Transcript

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0:00:00 - Mikah Sargent
Coming up on Hands-On Tech. We've got a lot of questions to answer today. First and foremost, a question that I think many people have Basically based on the response that I saw when I provided the answer. It's all about how to do a credit freeze with TransUnion by actually being able to log into your account. Then we've got some pitfalls and some knowledge about changing over to fiber internet and what you need to know when it comes to using your own equipment, questions about webmail and a few troubleshooting questions when it comes to using your iPhone and your Mac. Together. All of that, plus more coming up on this episode of Hands-on Tech.

Hello and welcome to Hands on Tech. Today is an episode of questions. You can email me H-O-T@twit.tv and here let me tell you this too If you're listening and you have sent an email in the past to ATG at twit.tv and you have yet to hear your question answered, you have my absolute and utter permission to email that question again to HOT at twit.tv. We will still be perusing the database and going back and trying to find questions, but I want to make sure that if your question hasn't been answered and you've been waiting to have it answered on Ask the Tech Guys that it does get answered on Hands on Tech. So hot@twit.tv is how you can get in touch and share your question there. Now, this first question I was kind of excited to see because I'm pretty sure that I had almost the exact same experience as this individual, and so I remember figuring out what needed to happen to solve it. So here we go.

Tony writes in and says TransUnion is about to be the death of me. Searches of Reddit show that they have been having login problems like the ones I'm experiencing this week for the last 10 years, which is astonishing to me. Here is what happens. I enter the login and password I have associated with my account. It fails. I try again. It fails again. It verifies me by asking for my social security number, my birthday security question, last name. It sends me a temporary code to my email for me to enter. I enter the code. It asks do you want to change your password now or go to login? No matter which option I choose, I get an error page Quote. We are having trouble. Yeah, no is what the person says.

This is an endless loop I cannot get out of. I have tried Chrome, Firefox, brave and, as a last resort, edge. All ad blockers off, all privacy trackers, ghostly Privacy Badger, etc. Off. On Edge, I was able to get as far as resetting the password. I thought, yes, this browser is good for something after all. No such luck. I entered a new, BitWarden generated password, was told it was a good and strong password and I was good to go. And then and then the page loops back to enter a new password. I can enter the same password again, a different password, my original password, all of which tells me it's a good, strong password. I'm good to go, just to be looped back to enter a new password. I've interrupted this step after the first good to go message and tried to log in, no dice. Back to the endless loop. I'm at an utter loss.

We are in the middle of a huge security breach. I'm guessing a lot of people need to put freezes on their credit, but how can anyone get into TransUnion when it behaves this way? Reddit has posts from the last week from users experiencing this problem. What can I do? Do you have any advice, suggestions or reassurances to offer? Well, I do. Tony have reassurances to offer that I believe are helpful in this situation. So if you go to Equifax or you go to and now I'm forgetting the other one Equifax and Experian, and you go to the login because you've created an account in the past to be able to do credit freezes and, to you know, check your once a year free credit score, right? Basically, what I'm saying is, if you haven't created an account that you pay for to keep regular credit updates, but you just have the free account, going to Equifax and going to Experian. It's simple. You find any login button anywhere and you log in with the account that you created, the account that you use to register your account, and then suddenly you're able to gain access to your Experian or Equifax accounts and you're able to do a credit freeze. I know because I literally just did it after having to unfreeze due to my move, and it's so simple.

Then I went to TransUnion and I went through this same stinking hurdle and I did this same troubleshooting steps. I tried so many different browsers, I tried turning off all of the things, I tried everything that I could possibly do and none of it worked. And then I came to realize that TransUnion is different from Equifax and Experian in one specific way. Transunion has decided that there are two count them two separate means of logging in, depending on the type of account that you have. If you have a TransUnion paid account, then when you go to TransUnion.com and you go to member login at the top of the page and you log in, it will take you to your TransUnion member page, the paid page. But if you're just there to do a credit freeze and you're not a paid member of TransUnion, then it's an entirely different site with an entirely different login. But here's what makes it worse If you've tried to log in and you couldn't log in using the member part of it and you do the forgot password step, TransUnion's backend will still recognize your email and your information and will push you to do the password reset dance because it knows that you have an account and so it'll let you do that, making you think that you're at the right page when in fact you are at the wrong login page. So there's a chance, tony, that this does not solve your problem. But my hope is based on the fact that this was so similar to the issue that I had. This will solve your problem to service, that's S-E-R-V-I-C-E dot TransUnion.com. If you go to serviceTransUnion.com, that will take you to the TransUnion Service Center, where your non-paid TransUnion account for doing credit freezes and other disputes etc. Are all available to you and the logins will work there.

I found that page and was able to log in after having all of those issues leading up to it, and what's funny is when I first did it, I didn't quite understand what I had done differently. Suddenly, I was able to access it and I thought what in the world? What changed here? And then I realized it's because I had done a Google search, specifically typing in TransUnion credit freeze, clicking and looking at the URL, of course, to make sure it was with a wholly different account login. So, tori, my suggestion to you again head to serviceTransUnion.com and try logging in there. If that still doesn't work for you, then let me know, because there could be something else that is up, that is behind the scenes. Folks are suggesting that there could be a VPN issue going on, a DNS issue per chance, and so we'd want to look into that. But when it comes to TransUnion, they separate out those who are paid and those who are not, but the back end still registers both as if they're the same, and it was incredibly frustrating trying to figure that out, and so I was very excited to see this question, because it means that I was able to tell more people about how to fix this issue, as we're all going in and putting freezes on our credit reports. All right, let's move on to our next question, which comes from Matthew. I'm really excited to answer this question because I just had a similar thing happen Wow, once again. So Matthew writes in fiber optic cable has been installed in my neighborhood and I'm finally able to have it run to my house.

I've always been a proponent of owning my own equipment me too and understanding how it works me too. I've used cable modems for years, so now I need to get up to speed on equipment for fiber internet. I have an Eero Mesh Wi-Fi system that I plan on keeping. What do I need to purchase? Is equipment company specific, the way cable modems are? I'm going with symmetrical one gigabit per second for now, but might go to two gigabits per second sometime in the future. Are there any other pitfalls or mistakes to avoid? Love this question because, once again, it's an opportunity to talk about my recent experience. Wow, am I a very selfish person? This is my show, so listen in.

So when I moved, I was able to get fiber internet and I knew day one I was going to be using my own equipment. Very important to me to also use my own equipment Wasn't 100% sure on how fiber worked in terms of the equipment itself, meaning that, a depending on the fiber company, it is a little bit different, and b depending on your own setup, it could be a little bit different with the fiber company that I had. Um, and, by the way, like I had a box set aside that was just my internet box, so that when internet was installed on day one, of course I had the box ready with all of my stuff in it and made sure to have it, you know, ready to go Inside of the box. I did have the Netgear Nighthawk cable modem ready. I know that doesn't make sense, but I just was like well, maybe when it comes into the house they use coax to kind of like to start the connection and so it needs to go into a modem. I wasn't for sure. And then I also had my Eero stuff ready to go. I also use Eero, and so the first thing that happened when the person came was I kind of talked to them and said I don't want your Wi-Fi things that you would give me, I'm okay with using my own, I just want to use my own.

And he said, cool, that's fine. He said that said you are going to need to do all of your own networking and you're going to need to know what it means when it comes to networking terms, et cetera. And me I'm thinking, okay, he's used to talking to some people who don't really know what they're doing when it comes to this system. So I started, you know, throwing in some terms and asking if it would automatically assign, like if I needed to turn off the IP address assignments at the node level, or if I could make a change, etc. Etc. You know asking all the questions that were necessary, although being a little bit better at, you know, using the proper terminology.

And so when he installed the device, the device that went on the wall kind of connected to the outside where the fiber was running, and it had two Ethernet ports on it. So I said, oh, I don't need to use the modem. Good, I didn't think I was going to need to, but I was worried that I might. I don't need to use it, great, so I just need my router. Well, with my specific fiber, which is called quantum fiber.

There was an issue in that, because the on-the-wall device and let me see if I can remember what it's called, because it's got a special name that they give it and it is, let me see if I can find it here they have a special name for it that is a little bit different from the. Oh, it's a NID, n-i-d, and so the N-I-D, the NID, as I've been calling it, is both a modem and the terminal for your fiber optic network, and so two Ethernet ports on it and both of them work to provide you. You could, you know, put a Wi-Fi router out of one and then a switch on the other, and they're both the same network, right there. Now, here's the important thing to actually inquire with your internet provider about. Depending on the setup, you may have to do some kind of major networking understanding in the background.

For me, what I ended up having to do was let the smart NID, the network terminal, actually assign IPs, which I was a little bummed about. I wanted my Eero's to do all of that because for some reason, when my Eero was in charge of the system and I was just using the smart NID, kind of like I would a cable modem, the upload speeds dropped immensely, and that was a warning that Quantum Fiber had. I don't know if it's a real thing in terms of it's some sort of hardware firmware issue, or if it's something that they're specifically doing because they want you to use their equipment and use the system that they have. I don't know. I plan on doing even more troubleshooting and kind of understanding about that later Because, of course, if you use your own equipment, they will not offer you any advice or help at all with that part of it, only the part that's theirs. And so I did run into some issues where, when the Eero was assigning IPs and was serving all of the router functions, then I was not getting the speeds I was expecting. So that's something to be aware of, to be prepared for, depending on who you go with.

I think it's worth asking you know what's the process for using my own equipment? I think it's worth asking you know what's the process for using my own equipment? Is there any difference between the two? And then know the difference between the marketing speak and what's true and actual. You know if they say, oh, it's much simpler to use this and you'll get this feature and that feature. That's one thing you need to you know, completely understand all of your own networking and be able to like there was a part where I had to have the technician request a password for the background networking system. It was very complicated, basically, and so it was much simpler to just have my Eros be access points, and so that's what I'm doing right now, and the internet speeds are fantastic. But that might be something that you know you won't have to do and that you need to know specifically with your fiber. But main thing is you don't need a cable modem like a coaxial cable modem, you just need to have kind of your typical networking steps. ScooterX in the chat brought up some good points and some things that I did as well. If you've got very old Ethernet cables, you know if you're not running Cat6 cables, then it's worth upgrading to Cat6 cables. If you've got very old network switches that are part of your system, then it's worth upgrading those to make sure that they can do one gigabit and perhaps two gigabit in the future. I assume that your Eero Mesh Wi-Fi system is one that is new enough that it's going to support these speeds, and if they do, then you're good to go as far as that goes.

Pitfalls I didn't really experience any pitfalls other than the limitations of the installation of the NID within the home. I had kind of hoped that it could be placed elsewhere and depending on how involved your networking excuse me depending on how skilled, rather, your specific technician is, they may or may not be able to install it in a different location. If it's just a lazy technician, then they may also just not want to install it in a different location. So that's something to be aware of as well. But ultimately I found that the process was quite simple, particularly if you already have, say, a cable running into the home and you're not using it. I mean, the technician simply took out where the cable ran into the home and put the smart NID there in its place and everything worked out. And what was kind of wild is with my home. When they renovated this place, the people who renovated it just cut the fiber cable and walked over to the nearest pole and kind of wrapped it around the pole and just left it there. Who came? Actually, because of damage done to the cable, the technician had to walk up the hill to the next pole, get on a ladder and run fiber from that pole down and then to the home from there. So, all that's to say, I did not have a lazy technician. I had a very devoted technician and was impressed with everything that happened as far as that goes.

But those are some things to keep in mind whenever you are doing this. I want to kind of look through the chat here just to see if there's anything. But yes, as folks are pointing out, the ONT or the NID as Quantum calls it, that's something that you can't own. It's the kind of translation between fiber into actually being internet. That is something that is a hardware device that the company is going to provide, but everything after that all works, and so for me, I had to use bridge mode basically for my routers instead of using bridge mode on the device itself. When I use bridge mode on the device, that is when I ran into issues with speeds dropping. So, yes, that's something to keep in mind. If you have any specific questions that you are running into issues with, do let me know. I'm also seeing, yeah, folks said you know I upgraded my connection or upgraded my cabling.

I use Eero's as well to do the networking and that it that it's pretty simple to do so? Yeah, it looks like um scooter X as well. You're using the supplied device to do DHCP. That's what I ended up doing. Um, so maybe that's just a common thing then. With with fiber, is that it's better to have the? With fiber, is that it's better to have the NID, the modem slash router device that is installed on the wall that translates the fiber optic signal into what you need for Ethernet. Let that do DHCP and DNS.

Of course I did change the DNS to what I use, which is 1.1.1.1, 1.0.0.1. And then by no means have I memorized the IPv6, but those as well. I did change the DNS because what was kind of why there's, in fact, this just came to mind. I completely forgot about this. We, after everything was installed and everything started working, we were having issues where we were getting just random time signal dropping and the connection wasn't there and it would seem as if it was connected to the internet but nothing was working. Yeah, I changed the DNS, uh, finally over to 1.1.1.1 and et cetera, and I have not had a single issue since. So that was very helpful as well.

All righty, thank you, Matthew, for writing in and, of course, hit me up HOT at twit.tv if you have any other specific questions. I'm looking at the clock and it looks like it's time for a break here on Hands On Tech. So I want to tell you about our sponsor today, which is BetterHelp, bringing you this episode of Hands On Tech. I'll ask you a very important question.

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All right, now we are back from the break and it is time for our next question on this, the very grab bag episode of Hands on Tech. All right, this question comes in from Michelle. That's Michelle with one L, very famous in the Twit community. Michelle writes do you still like Fastmail? What do you think of Hover? And then provides a brief background.

I have been with Google. Workspaces was called G Suite before way too long. My senior software engineer put my business with them. I do not like Google Workspaces. Their support is only overseas. They charge too much a month, too many bells and whistles for me. I am tech clueless. If you remember and feel more comfortable with basic, easy stuff, michelle, I remember you and I remember you asking us questions and we appreciate you calling in as well.

So do I still like Fastmail? Love Fastmail? Fastmail is my main email provider outside of a Gmail account that I've just had for years. Fastmail is a sponsor on the network, I should point out. They are an incredibly robust email program and, as we've talked about before, when you pay for your email, that makes all the difference. And when a company is solely focused on being the best email provider it can be, which is the case for Fastmail, because that's what Fastmail does and is that, it's even better. It's fantastic email, because it's all it does.

Now I also want to talk about Hover. What do I think of Hover? Well, hover's been a sponsor on the network before as well. Point that out. Hover has been a true companion of mine for years, and sometimes an enabler, because I will buy domains randomly because they go on sale, and sometimes an enabler, because I will buy domains randomly because they go on sale. And why not own domains? Domains, because it feels more real than owning a star, which is a totally fake thing. But anyway, I think Hover is fantastic. It is reliable, it is inexpensive and there are mail options for Hover.

Now, there are a few different mail options. When it comes to Hover, you can do something as simple as set up a mail forward, which I use for some domains that I have, and also for my siblings, because when it was actually Leo who gave me the idea, he said when both of his kids were born, he bought them their kind of name at a website, and so I started doing that with my nieces and then I kind of went back and did it for my siblings as well, and so for my sister she had a little business she was doing where she would design shoes, she would paint on shoes and she was doing some incredible stuff. I have some shoes that are the office themed, and so for her work I set up an email that was like shoes at her name dot com, and that was just an email forward, which is really inexpensive, and basically you tell it what your actual email is and then any mail that gets sent to shoes at hernamecom gets forwarded along to that email. So if you have an email account that you want to keep using, that's a great way to use Hover to do that. But Hover also offers webmail. This it is not anywhere near as robust and feature-rich as FastMail because it is, you know, hover. Its main thing is domains, mail is secondary. But it sounds to me, michelle, with 1L, like you are after a very simple, very traditional mail program that works like it used to, and I think that that's where Hover's webmail might be something that you want to use, particularly if you know what you need to know about being able to set up your own mail clients with your email. So I think Fastmail and Hover are both great.

I also Harold in the Discord has mentioned a great feature that comes with FastMail, and this is something that I use quite literally every day because the password manager that I use, 1password, has it as an included feature. Anytime you create an account, you can create a masked email address, and so what that does is it makes kind of a pseudo random email address that is attached to a specific website so that if that website is ever breached and that email is stolen, that's the only place where it exists. It doesn't exist in other places and, of course, your passwords are pseudo random. I know you're doing the right thing there, so then you're even more secure. But also it helps you know when a company says we will never sell your email, and then suddenly you're getting more email to that account than what you would expect, you know that that company has sold your email. So I love Fastmail's masked email feature as well. So thank you, michelle, for writing in with your question there.

All right, this next question comes from James, who writes please confirm it is possible, using macOS, to send a message using the Messages app, and this can only be done on an iPhone. And if so, would a workaround be perhaps to use the new iOS version 18 that allows controlling the iPhone from the Mac, or maybe there's another way to do that? Okay, so, james, I'm trying to kind of parse through this question here. It sounds like what you're asking is if you can send an SMS message using the Messages app on macOS. And yes, you absolutely can. All you have to do is, on your iPhone, you go into the Settings app and, by the way, you need to be logged in to your iCloud account, or I should say, your Apple account. That's about to be the name for it. Apple ID is going the way of the dodo. Apple account is the new norm.

Log into your Apple account on your Mac, log into your Apple account on your phone and then, once you're logged in in both of those places and, of course, you have two-factor authentication turned on you go to the messages settings within the settings app and you look for something called text message forwarding. When you tap on text message forwarding, you are presented with the names of any other devices that are logged in to iCloud with your Apple ID and that are able to send and receive text messages from the iPhone. You tap on the toggle to turn it on and, from that point on, sms messages from your phone will appear on your Mac and any SMS messages that you send from your Mac will use your iPhone to send out those SMS messages from your phone will appear on your Mac and any SMS messages that you send from your Mac will use your iPhone to send out those SMS messages to other places. Imessages will work regardless of whether your phone is at the bottom of the Marianas Trench or in space with your Mac, because that just has to happen over Wi-Fi or over your network. So when it comes to SMS messages, it does need to have that cellular service to be able to send those SMS messages, but, yes, the Messages app with text message forwarding. So you don't need to do the, you don't need to use that mirroring feature to be able to actually send that. That's not required to make that happen.

Now, this next question also comes from James, who writes I am running on the iPhone 15, ios 18 beta, the latest version with Sonoma beta, latest version on a Mac mini 2. But most of the time when oh, by the way, I want to say this is what's great about this show, right? Is that if you tried to contact Apple with this stuff, they would say you're on the beta, good luck, we're not helping you with that. Um, the most that we do is we provide you some, uh, feedback. We ask you to provide some feedback for things, but we're not doing support for beta stuff. So that is why you can ask me on this show, because I am happy to help you out with that. So James again says running the beta on a bunch of different devices and on Mac mini too. But most of the time when trying the new iPhone mirroring feature, I get this message even after closing all apps on my iPhone and restarting. How can I fix this issue please? Now, when it comes to this message, the message reads it shows an iPhone with kind of a blue screen and then below it it says iPhone in use. iPhone mirroring will connect when iPhone is no longer in use. That is the message that James is seeing Now. James was thinking the reason that Apple is saying that Sonoma is saying iPhone in use is because there are apps that are running on the iPhone. That is not the case.

iPhone mirroring is a feature that lets you use your iPhone when you do not have access to your iPhone or when you don't want to have access to your iPhone. That means that if you are looking at the screen and you have your phone unlocked and you're on the home screen or you're doing anything on your iPhone other than having it locked and placed down, iphone mirroring is not going to work Because, if you think about it, if you are tapping on the screen on your phone and you're also trying to interact with the screen from your Mac, both at the same time is going to lead to some confusion. The point of this feature is not to give you two means of access at once, but to give you access here, access there, and part of this is a security feature, because, while iPhone mirroring is working, your iPhone is specifically locked so that if I, for example, left my iPhone upstairs and there was a visitor over and I was, you know, needing to do something on my phone, when I bring it up on my Mac, I don't want my iPhone, that's upstairs sitting on the counter, to be showing all the things that I'm doing on my phone from my Mac. It's a locked screen and that is purpose built that way. So, james, all you need to do is lock your phone, set it down, leave it alone and then just use iPhone mirroring on your Mac. All right, I think we have enough time for one more question and then we will say goodbye for today and I'm going to go. For those of you who are following along in the notes, I'm going to go to the final question, because this one I just feel for this person and I want to make sure this gets answered.

Today, Leo writes in and this is a different Leo, not that Leo, you know the Leo Leo writes. I used to have two Nest cameras and I had set it up so that they would automatically switch off when I or my phone actually would get home and switch. That's interesting that their phone travels on its own, would get home and switch back on when I leave. Then Google told me that they would take over the cameras and they sent me two new cameras to install. Leo is talking about how Google acquired Nest and then the Nest Cam received an update and Leo got these new Nest Cams. Now it is managed via the Google Home app. I have not been able to figure out how I can get this same functionality back, so they switch off when I get home and switch on when I leave. I have a Pixel 4a with Android 13. Hope you have some ideas that can help Leo.

Here's what I want to say, and it's not to you, Leo, it's to Google. Google, you need to work on your support documentation, because, while I knew the answer to this question, I wanted to make sure that Leo had access to some links that would help Leo out with this issue, and the links for this issue are all over the stinking place. They are everywhere. You have to go through so many different hoops to try to find exactly what you're looking for in order to answer this question. Now, here's the most important thing Up to this point, the Nest app was what you used to manage all of your settings.

Google decided that it wanted to move things out of the Nest app and into the Google Home app to let you manage those settings, and there are still some things that are kind of holdovers. For example, when I moved into this place, this place had a Nest thermostat, and when I went to set it up, I was still existing in the before times, and so I downloaded the Nest app and I was able to set it up with the Nest app, but a bunch of pop-ups came up saying, hey, go to the Google Home app instead. Go to the Google Home app instead. You should do everything from the Google Home app. So I went there.

The Nest cams they are not able to be set and to be. You can view things with the Nest app, but you cannot do the location-based stuff, which is what Leo's saying, and so you have to go into the Google Home app and trying to find the support documentation. It basically goes from you're kind of looking through, you're reading through, and it links you to another page and then you go to the next page and then it links you to this other page and then there's nothing. That's just exactly precisely what you're looking for. ScooterX has been sharing notes or links in the chat that have different options and, yes, you found the one ScooterX in the end. That is the closest that I can find to giving you exactly what you need to know. So here's what's confusing about it.

Up to this point, it was kind of part of the setup of the device that when you set it up, you were able to do those home and away routines although they weren't called that at the time to turn on when you left, turn off when you came back home. These are now called home and away routines, and the way that you do it is in the Google Home app. You have to set up a routine, but they will only appear if you have a Nest Cam as part of your account. Now you do, you have that, so these settings are going to show up. So you go into the Google Home app and down at the bottom of the Google Home app, this may look a little bit different.

Then you, or rather you'll see the tabs. You are looking for the automations tab and so you tap on automations and once you tap on automations, you'll see two sections in automations household routines and personal routines. As you might imagine, personal routines are routines that are tied specifically to you. What you want are household routines, so once you go there, you will need to again. This is if you have your Nest, your Nest Cam, actually part of this system. You will find under the automations tab and household routines. You will see home and you will see away. If you don't have those, then you cannot do that. Okay, you will actually have to create an automation by tapping add and then choosing a household routine and then choosing the specific item in the action, et cetera, et cetera.

But given that you, Leo, have a Nest Cam or more, you should, upon going to the automations tab in the home app, see home and away as two options under that household routines section, and then you will be able to find what you are looking for there to set up the cameras to say, turn off when I come home or when people come home, yes, and then turn on when I leave. So, Leo, I feel for you there are too many different pages and too much information. But ScooterX does have another suggestion ScooterX in the chat that I think is great. Have another suggestion ScooterX in the chat that I think is great, which is that you might consider asking Google Gemini. Gemini might be able to help you with product support. That includes screenshots and things like that as well. You can find that, Leo, at geminigoogle.com Folks. That is going to bring us to the end of this grab bag episode of Hands on Tech. I got to tell you I am really enjoying this.

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