The Tech Guy Episode 1885 Transcript
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Hi, this is Leo Laporte and this is my tech guy podcast. This show originally aired on the premier networks on Saturday, April 16th, 2022. This is episode 1,885. Enjoy the tech guy podcast is brought to you by Cachefly. Cachefly is giving away a complimentary detailed analysis of your current CDN bill and usage trends. See if you're over paying 20% or more, learn more at twit.cachefly.com. Well, Hey, Hey. Hey, how are you today? Leo Laporte here. The tech guy, time to talk computers, the internet home theater, digital photography, smart phones, smart watches. I am joined by thank goodness by Mikah Sergeant who's who's by rain is still working.
Mikah Sargent (00:01:03):
Hello?
Leo Laporte (00:01:03):
Hello tech guy too. If that means this is a good day call 88 88, ask Leo. You can also visit our website tech. I labs.com mostly after the fact. That's where we put transcripts of the show and links and all that stuff. Tech guy labs.com. I only mention it because you don't have to write anything down that way. You know, you're here in the show, but you don't have to write anything down. It'll all be there. All the links and everything. 88 88, ask Leah, well, go to the phones in just a second, but you know, there's I like to start the show with a look at what's been going on in the world. Has anything interesting, been happening?
Mikah Sargent (00:01:42):
Not at all, not the
Leo Laporte (00:01:43):
Tech world at
Mikah Sargent (00:01:43):
All. Haven't heard anything about nothing at all. Twitter about no, no nothing.
Leo Laporte (00:01:48):
Elon Musk. So last week previously on Elon Musk saga he had made he had purchased a significant portion about 9.2% of Twitter stock. Twitter had made the offer to be on the board, which they then reneged upon, right? About this time last week, it said, nevermind, unclear whether that was their idea or Elon's idea. But now I'm thinking maybe it was Elon's idea. Cuz one of the reasons Twitter wanted him on the board is if you're on the board, you can't do a hostile takeover. You can't try to buy whole thing. You're limited to 15% of the stock. So after the announcement on Saturday of last week, that Elon Musk was not on the board of Twitter. Does anybody, do you care about this? Should we do not even talk about this? I
Mikah Sargent (00:02:40):
Don't know. Like
Leo Laporte (00:02:41):
Does it even matter? It's
Mikah Sargent (00:02:42):
Yeah, this, yeah, it doesn't matter. Scroll. That's how I feel about it. He's just, he's just having fun for him and it's not fun for a lot of other people, but for him it's no
Leo Laporte (00:02:50):
It's nerve wracking if you work at Twitter. So then they re retract the offer or he withdraws for something. And then the earlier this week he says he wants to buy Twitter. It is a hostile, they call it a hostile takeover. He this was on April 14th, two days ago 40 he's offering Phish four 20 a share. That's a significant premium over its current value, but nothing compared to how it was last week, last year, rather, which was as much as $75 Musk one assumes he's got 270 some billion in his well, see this is important. That's net worth. That's not liquid. Yeah. Then he says, oh, I don't think he says, I need in a Ted event in Vancouver. He says, I'm not sure I'll succeed in buying Twitter. He says I'd have to sell some stock or something.
Leo Laporte (00:03:56):
Then the Twitter board adopts something called a poison pill, which is to discourage hostile takeovers. But meanwhile, by offering the money for for Twitter, Elon Musk has put Twitter in play. Others now may step up and saying, well, Al know, I'll take it because you're in this bidding war now aimed not at the board, but aid shareholders saying, well, you're star worth 48 bucks right now, but it could be worth 75. Let's say if we offer that. So now the, you know, other Richie's Richie, it's really the battle of the oligarchs. It's the battle of the oligarch stars. And Elon of course is the craziest of them all. But the thing that I think is a little suspicious by offering 54, $4 for Twitter stock, Elon is effectively saying it's worth that. And I think he remember he didn't pay anywhere near that for his current 9.2% stake. He got that for 3 billion. I think you could say he was hoping that the Twitter stock would then jump to something close to $54. So is we're gonna get that, you know, maybe make it 52 and I'll still make two bucks a share. Yep. It didn't.
Mikah Sargent (00:05:07):
It
Leo Laporte (00:05:07):
Went down the market said, yeah, right. The market knows a troll when it sees one, it could well have been what we call a pump and dump scheme where you you artificially illegally inflate the value, the stock and then sell your steak and make a lot of money.
Mikah Sargent (00:05:24):
Especially given how much he loves to troll the S E as well.
Leo Laporte (00:05:29):
Yeah. Oh, it's way it's illegal. But he's already being sued by shareholders. He's been sued. SEC's investigat. It's a mess. Anyway, he doesn't care because somebody did the calculations. Elon Musk's net worth 270 billion in dollars. The average Americans net worth is $110,000. So to what would look like for you and me, how can I put this? Elon Musk's offer to Twitter is equivalent of a small McDonald's fry to you and me. God.
Leo Laporte (00:06:02):
In other words, it's nothing the, the fine, not the offer. The 20 million fine is nothing. It's a small, would you like fries with that? Sure. 20 million. Here you go. It's nothing. So this is a first of all, SEC's gotta get serious. If they're gonna do this, they gotta get serious. They can't just be, they can't just be saying, well, here's 20 million fine. Elon said, well, let me check my wallet. Yeah, here you go. Yep. No big deal. When you're that rich. I gotta, I think, I don't know. I'm I'm of course I, I ain't one, but I'm more and more of the, we tax the heck outta these guys. Let's just take half their money. Let's just take it away. These guys if you look at somebody who's done the math again looking at Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, bill gates, bunch of tech billionaires, and how much their value went up in the last 10 years. It's on the order of a hundred billion. Each ridiculous
Mikah Sargent (00:07:02):
Profiting off of these.
Leo Laporte (00:07:04):
And COVID has been huge for them. Yeah. Trillions of dollars going to the pockets of America's richest. No, I'm not talking 1%. I'm talking one, 100th of 1%, you know, the few hundred billionaires in the us. So I don't know. Yeah. You know, America likes to say, well, I might be one of them. So don't tax 'em. Yeah, no, you won't. You
Mikah Sargent (00:07:24):
Won't,
Leo Laporte (00:07:26):
You won't here's one. That's gonna be controversial.
Mikah Sargent (00:07:29):
Okay. Last
Leo Laporte (00:07:31):
Year, the governor of California, Gavin Newsom said, we're gonna aim for no gas lean car sales in 2035 will now car, which is the California's clean air resources board has unveiled a plan to phase out gas powered vehicles by 20 35 13,
Mikah Sargent (00:07:54):
Or actually having them in the state.
Leo Laporte (00:07:56):
It would ban new gas, power new. Okay. So yeah, you, your, your Barracuda, your 1967 Camaro, you can keep that your muscle car, your Jap. You can keep that, but I imagine that's the next thing right now, before you go freaking out, it's it won't be voting on this till August. There's a 45 day public comment period. And, and this will be fun. I, they stream this a June 9th public hearing. That'll be fun. Fireworks are plenty. I guess we could talk about this with, with Sam at bull Sam and our car guide tomorrow, but very interesting, very interesting. And certainly the car companies are kind of anticipating this. They have been moving very rapidly to
Mikah Sargent (00:08:42):
Up their EV you see a lot of EVs. Yeah. More and
Leo Laporte (00:08:45):
More. Yeah. GM says we're gonna be all EV for as has an EV division. They've separated that out from the gas division. So the proposal would not apply to sales of used vehicles by the way. Most people still buy used vehicles cuz they're smart. Buy a new car, you know, smells good. Okay. I'll grant you great smells good. But you know, the value goes plummets. As soon as you drive off the lot it also would not require cutting gas powered vehicle sales, cold Turkey starting with a 2026 model year 35% of new cars, SUVs, and small pickups should be zero emission. After that, that would go up every year, 20% could be plug-in hybrids. And of course, those of you not living in California would say, well, who cares? Well, yeah, but if you're a car company, that's a big market. Absolutely.
Mikah Sargent (00:09:38):
And this is a testing ground and sure. You know, we live in the, the first city that banned the construction of new gas stations. You
Leo Laporte (00:09:48):
Can't build a gas station in Petaluma. Not that we don't have gas. I think the, I thought was we have plenty. Yeah. And you know, it's one thing by the way, there are several places in Petaluma, including one in the very heart of downtown where a gas station once was that nobody can build on because they're Superfund sites because almost always in gas stations, these tanks leak, and now you've gotta remediate it. And nobody wants to spend the millions of dollars to get that plot. So there are a number of all over town. There's X gas stations that there's nothing there. It's just an empty lot of weeds. So I don't know. I don't know. Hey let's let's let's take some calls. I think we should do that. Eighty eight eighty eight ask Leo is the phone number. Leo Laport, Mikah Sargent Sergeant. We're taking your calls. We're answering your questions. We're you get the most out of your tech? 8, 8, 8, 8 2 7 5 5 3 6. What's Jaylen gonna do. Okay. Okay. Yes. I, I should put Superfund sites in quotes. Super fun, like site. It's gotta be, it's gotta be mitigated
Mikah Sargent (00:11:08):
ALA super
Leo Laporte (00:11:09):
Fun. Super fun.
Mikah Sargent (00:11:12):
Super fun mode. What
Leo Laporte (00:11:14):
Is this
Mikah Sargent (00:11:15):
Am do super fun
Leo Laporte (00:11:18):
Through fromage. Woo. I'm hoping that your home, well, this isn't your home. I hope. Have you been living under the desk there? Yes.
Kim Schaffer (00:11:33):
Yes, absolutely.
Leo Laporte (00:11:34):
You and your dogs? My
Kim Schaffer (00:11:35):
You, me and all my dogs. I just had a Leo this past week.
Leo Laporte (00:11:45):
I don't know what to say to that.
Kim Schaffer (00:11:47):
His name was Leo.
Leo Laporte (00:11:48):
Oh, it was a puppy. Oh, good. Nice. Not what kind of dog is a Leo?
Kim Schaffer (00:11:54):
Some kind of mut looked a little Chihuahua. Ish, multicolored
Leo Laporte (00:12:00):
Kinda like me.
Kim Schaffer (00:12:02):
Hey, if you need a Guinea pig for that bottle, that changes.
Leo Laporte (00:12:05):
God. So yeah. So
Kim Schaffer (00:12:07):
Let me know. Cause I, I race my,
Leo Laporte (00:12:09):
One of our regulars on the, on the other podcast, Amy Webb. Who's a wonderful, wonderful futurist had mentioned on the show. One time that there's a whiskey that is made kind of like in a replicator, like they don't, they don't age it or anything.
Kim Schaffer (00:12:27):
Oh,
Leo Laporte (00:12:27):
Okay. They make it from the molecule up and I just got a, she just sent me a bottle of it lit interesting. But I, I, you know, I'm not a, I'm not an expert in whiskey, so I might have a panel of you and aunt and some other people who are whiskey drinkers.
Kim Schaffer (00:12:44):
I'm not a connoisseur like aunt by any means
Leo Laporte (00:12:46):
This doesn't say like age in the barrel or anything. Cuz it wasn't. Yeah.
Kim Schaffer (00:12:49):
So it's like, it could be made in one day age
Leo Laporte (00:12:51):
In the beaker 12. Yeah. That's what the is
Kim Schaffer (00:12:54):
H and a piker.
Leo Laporte (00:12:56):
So yeah, it could be, it could be good. I think Amy knows her her adult beverages hand bottled, by
Kim Schaffer (00:13:06):
The way, it's worth a try
Leo Laporte (00:13:07):
Hand bottled. So who should I talk to?
Kim Schaffer (00:13:10):
Let's spend some money.
Leo Laporte (00:13:14):
Okay.
Kim Schaffer (00:13:15):
NA Nan's computer died and now she, she needs a new desktop.
Leo Laporte (00:13:18):
Oh, I hate it. When that happens. I
Kim Schaffer (00:13:20):
Know.
Leo Laporte (00:13:20):
Thank you, Kim. She
Kim Schaffer (00:13:22):
Screen of
Leo Laporte (00:13:22):
Death phone angel. Hello, Nan. Leo. LePort the tech guy along with Mikah Sargent Sergeant tech guy too. Welcome.
Caller 1 (00:13:30):
Thank you. Hi Leo. Hi Mikah Sargent. Hello? Okay. It was an old all in one Dell computer, like 2014.
Leo Laporte (00:13:41):
Sounds like the beginning of a Dashel ham novel. It was an
Kim Schaffer (00:13:44):
Old
Leo Laporte (00:13:44):
Computer rain, which coming down on the old computer
Caller 1 (00:13:48):
And I mean, it was a work course. It, I abused that thing. I had hundreds of tabs over. Of course you did.
Leo Laporte (00:13:54):
Of course you did.
Caller 1 (00:13:56):
But the other day oh, it just completely died. And when I turn it on, it says, you know, reboot and select proper boot device. And then I did do a couple years ago, a recovery drive I put in and I can get into some menus, advanced options system, restore, things like that, but it just doesn't work. Yeah. So I think it's shot.
Leo Laporte (00:14:25):
It's it's a dead Polley. So I wouldn't throw it out. I would take the drive out. Was it iMac? Is it
Caller 1 (00:14:38):
Windows?
Leo Laporte (00:14:39):
Oh, it's windows. It's Adele. I don't know why I was thinking Mac. So you can probably, is it a laptop or desktop?
Caller 1 (00:14:45):
All in one desktop.
Leo Laporte (00:14:46):
All in one. That's why I was thinking iMac. It's an all in one. So it may or may not be easy to remove the hard drive. I, I certainly would keep it around at some point you might want to try to, is there anything on there you don't wanna lose?
Caller 1 (00:14:58):
Well, yeah, I, I don't have I drive or anything like that. I know. Blah,
Leo Laporte (00:15:03):
Blah, blah. Oh, no backup. I'm not gonna, you think I'm a chastise? You don't, you. I am not.
Caller 1 (00:15:09):
I have an external drive and I used windows file history.
Leo Laporte (00:15:13):
Oh good. So you have that, you haven't lost anything. Is that
Caller 1 (00:15:18):
Probably
Leo Laporte (00:15:19):
Not? Probably not.
Caller 1 (00:15:21):
I haven't tried to hook up that external drive to anything yet.
Leo Laporte (00:15:25):
So now's a good time to buy a new computer hook up that external drive. See if you've got everything. But before you get rid of the old computer, make sure you have everything you want. Cause you could probably get some stuff off of that drive. Okay. So, you know, with, with a little exert little elbow grease, but let's not worry about let's, that's why it's always better to have a backup. Cause it's a lot easier. Yes. So what do you do with your fabulous computer?
Caller 1 (00:15:50):
Well, I have a Chromebook and I hate it. So
Leo Laporte (00:15:55):
Just that. So don't suggest that Laport. That is not, that is a nonstarter. Okay. That's fine. Why do you hate it? Just outta curiosity.
Caller 1 (00:16:04):
I can't do anything on it.
Leo Laporte (00:16:05):
Yeah. So things that you do, you, you don't a browser is not enough. You need more.
Caller 1 (00:16:12):
Yes. But I don't really do that much. I do use word and Excel.
Leo Laporte (00:16:18):
Yeah. So that's some people that's one of the sacrifices of a Chromebook. You can't use word or Excel. You could use word or Excel on the web. There is a, Microsoft does have a version of that or, but really Google, which makes Chrome OS wants you to use Google's docs. You know, all of their, all their programs, which you're, you know, if you're used to word Excel, they're not, they're not as good. So I understand that. Do you do any photo editing, video editing music, production rocket launching design of spaceships, anything like that?
Caller 1 (00:16:49):
Maybe some photo and video, but not, not a lot. Not heavy. Yeah. Heavy use.
Leo Laporte (00:16:57):
How old is the somebody's saying, you know, you might just want to, instead of buying a whole new system and I wanna discourage you, but if the computer's not super old, you might just replace the hard drive in it.
Caller 1 (00:17:06):
No, it's like 2014. It's it's pretty
Leo Laporte (00:17:09):
Old. Yeah. I just replaced the 2014 computer myself. It, yeah. I mean, honestly, it's not gonna be that much faster these days. It's there Intel hasn't made massive leaps and bounds. Okay. So you could, I mean, this is, I should, I should say it is an option that you replace the drive in there cuz that's, what's gone and everything else is probably fine. So that's one option and that's a cheap option. That's a hundred buck option, but yeah. Yeah. And since it's not a, it's a, it's an all in one, again, it's gonna come down to whether you can get into it or not. So that's gonna require a little searching on the internet.
Caller 1 (00:17:45):
I, I know it, I can I in glancing through the user guide, it can be taken
Leo Laporte (00:17:52):
Apart. Okay. So you can open it up if you can. And the drive is right there on the front. You, you don't have to take up a lot of stuff out. That's an easy upgrade and you know, if you wanna save money, you can certainly do that. It might be the thing to do before you go out and,
Caller 1 (00:18:07):
And I could put an a D it.
Leo Laporte (00:18:09):
Yes. And that would speed things up. Yeah. Yeah.
Caller 1 (00:18:12):
Okay.
Leo Laporte (00:18:13):
So that's one option.
Caller 1 (00:18:14):
Yeah.
Leo Laporte (00:18:15):
The other option is to get a new PC. I think that's what you were calling about.
Caller 1 (00:18:19):
Yeah. I'm just familiar with windows. I know apple, you know,
Leo Laporte (00:18:25):
I'm not gonna talk you out of it. I could talk you out of it.
Leo Laporte (00:18:28):
Do you want all in one again? Do you care? Do you want a laptop?
Caller 1 (00:18:31):
No, I think desktop, but not an all in one. I wanna be able to have kinda a tower modular. Yeah.
Leo Laporte (00:18:38):
I am a big need.
Caller 1 (00:18:39):
A full size tower. No
Leo Laporte (00:18:40):
Little, little, little mini tower
Caller 1 (00:18:43):
And I'm not sure a knock would be enough. I,
Leo Laporte (00:18:46):
Well, you know it, listen to you. Listen to her. Okay. Use the blingo recalibrating. Exactly. Right.
Caller 1 (00:18:52):
I've been doing some steady in
Leo Laporte (00:18:56):
Well now and
Caller 1 (00:18:58):
The old one was an I seven.
Leo Laporte (00:19:00):
Yeah. You want to get an I seven again? I would look at the Dells either the SPS or the INPO on the INPO are a little less expensive. But they are very good, very reliable, good support. Good components. Leo Laport, the tech guy. So that's, that's kind of where I would go. Lenovo, no, I wouldn't go with Lenovo. I, I would say Dell is probably for a desktop. It's your best is your best bet. That's what we just, and I tell you what we put our money, where mouth, cause we just gave our editors all new computers and they all got Dell's.
Caller 1 (00:19:35):
Ah, yeah,
Leo Laporte (00:19:36):
They, they got Dell work stations, but that's what we
Caller 1 (00:19:38):
Got. Yeah. Now I like an optical drive. Can you get an external one if
Leo Laporte (00:19:45):
Yeah, they may. I mean, Dell, Dell may, well, especially on the Inpro line may have one with an optical drive.
Caller 1 (00:19:52):
I know some of the big towers do. Yeah.
Leo Laporte (00:19:55):
But, but you, if you don't use it all the time, you can also just get a USB drive. Okay. That you just plug in, you know, keep in a drawer and plug it in where you need it. And they're like 40 bucks. They're not expensive. I would look if you're looking at Dell at the 12th generation processors, they still are selling 10th, but I would. Okay. Yeah. I would look at the 12th generation. Those are the brand new ones, this, the older lake. And they are notably more performant, especially in the lower end. Like the I three and the I five. So I think an I five 12th generation I five, make sure you get, I would get 16 gigs of Ram.
Caller 1 (00:20:35):
Okay.
Leo Laporte (00:20:36):
And that's gonna be 700 bucks. Something like that. Not a whole lot.
Caller 1 (00:20:40):
Yeah. That's doable.
Leo Laporte (00:20:41):
Cause you're gonna keep your, oh, you can't keep, you'll keep your keyboard mask. I guess you'll have to get a monitor. Dell makes very good monitors too. Yeah,
Caller 1 (00:20:48):
Yeah. Yeah.
Leo Laporte (00:20:49):
So yeah. And you're gonna get windows 11, which is, which is nice. You're gonna like it.
Caller 1 (00:20:55):
Okay.
Leo Laporte (00:20:55):
So let me just see 8 99 for an Inpro desktop with the I seven very fast. I seven, if you you don't probably don't need an and you can go down, save a couple hundred bucks, go down to the I five. I don't think you're gonna notice any difference.
Caller 1 (00:21:12):
Okay. Especially since my old one was I seven, but you know,
Leo Laporte (00:21:17):
Years old. Right, right.
Caller 1 (00:21:19):
Probably the I five is more equivalent to that now. Yeah.
Leo Laporte (00:21:23):
You're gonna, these will have built in Intel graphics, which just doesn't sound like you do anything that requires graphics. Like, you know,
Caller 1 (00:21:30):
I don't do huge gaming. No, no, no.
Leo Laporte (00:21:33):
Yeah. So, but I would get 16 gigs of Ram and your old hard drive probably was pretty small. I'm guessing.
Caller 1 (00:21:43):
I'm not sure it was no bigger than 2 56. Yeah.
Leo Laporte (00:21:47):
So, so five 12 would be fine for you. But you're gonna get an SSD for sure. Okay. For sure. For sure. For sure. And if you wanna spend a, you know, the one, I just speced out with a higher end Intel graphics, the I seven is 8 99. If you put in the I six is six 50. Oh, let's put in some more Rams. Sorry. No, it's backed to 8 99 be because oh, that's sneaky in order to put in the 16 gigs around. I have to put in the higher end I seven. Okay. Oh, okay. It's all right. 8 99. Is that okay? Yes. And then there's the monitor? Dell has great monitors. 27 inch monitor about three or 400 bucks.
Caller 1 (00:22:25):
Yeah. So I'm looking at 1500 or so thing like that,
Leo Laporte (00:22:29):
Max.
Caller 1 (00:22:30):
Yeah. Okay.
Leo Laporte (00:22:31):
Versus a hundred to replace the hard drive, but then you still have the old system.
Caller 1 (00:22:36):
Yeah. That could be handy. Have two.
Leo Laporte (00:22:39):
Yes. I didn't even think of that. Yes. And then you might try to reco recover the old drive and you'd have, you know, that just to make sure you get all your data back and all that. But yeah. I think the Dell bronze are fine. I mean, if you want a little bit fancier, little bit Schock ear, I think the X PS is nice. They're pretty, they're, pretier, they're designed more for higher end usage and they do go up a few hundred bucks more. They have dedicated graphics cars for instance, but you don't need that. It doesn't sound like so I think, yeah, Theron's the right thing for you. It's not the prettiest thing, but you don't care. You're gonna put under the desk.
Caller 1 (00:23:20):
Right, right, right, right.
Leo Laporte (00:23:23):
Okay.
Caller 1 (00:23:23):
Okay. Thank you. Thank you so much. You're
Leo Laporte (00:23:25):
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Scott Wilkinson (00:26:49):
Hello Leo. Hey Mikah Sargent. Hello,
Leo Laporte (00:26:51):
Scott. I don't have a camera big enough to fit all three of us. I'm sorry for those of who watching a video. It's an either or proposition. Yeah, it's either this or that, but Scott is here. He joins us every week to talk on the radio. So it doesn't really matter about TVs, big screen, flat panels and surround sound. What's up. What's up?
Scott Wilkinson (00:27:16):
Oh, I got a couple interesting listener emails. And as somebody said near, or the top of the show, it's time to spend somebody else's money. Love doing that. Love doing that. And this is really cool. Abel VE camp in Alaska wants to replace his old 50, 58 inch Samsung plasma TV. And he said his room is flooded with natural light in the spring and summer months. Anyway, flooded,
Leo Laporte (00:27:46):
Flooded
Scott Wilkinson (00:27:46):
Sometimes direct light. So that's bad. Oh no. And he's unable to block with curtains.
Leo Laporte (00:27:52):
And this is a problem nowadays, this, this time of year Lisa and I sat down and watched TV. It was seven o'clock at night, but there was a lot of light. We had to go draw the curtains on our O our old led TV.
Scott Wilkinson (00:28:04):
Exactly. In fact, that's why in this case, you've heard me many times say I would generally recommend OED over L C, D or L E D TV.
Leo Laporte (00:28:13):
Yeah,
Scott Wilkinson (00:28:14):
But there's one exception and that's enables situation. Yes. Which if you have to, if you have to battle a lot of ambient light L or LCD TVs get much brighter and that's what you need in that situation. So even his plasma TV couldn't get that bright. No, couldn't get very bright. And, and in ed, it gets bright, but it's nowhere near what you need for such a situation. Yeah. So he's also looking for 70 inches or more, and he is willing to spend two to $3,000. That's exciting. That's very exciting. It really is. Does
Leo Laporte (00:28:52):
He need to, is there a, is there a reason to spend that much money? It seems like a lot of money.
Scott Wilkinson (00:28:57):
Well, it does seem like a lot of money. I mean, you know, you, do you spend more money, you're gonna get higher quality, better performance to some degree. I I've always talked about the price to performance ratio, right? If you look at a graph of that, as price increases, generally speaking performance increases up to a certain point. What what's, what I would call the knee. And then it kind of flattens out. You can spend a bunch more money and only get very small increments in import improved performance. And two to $3,000 is gonna get you better performance than 1000 at a 70 inch screen size in particular. He's talking a pretty big TV.
Leo Laporte (00:29:38):
Yeah, no kidding. But that's good. You always get bigger than you think.
Scott Wilkinson (00:29:42):
Exactly, exactly. Right, exactly. Right. So I've got two recommendations for 'em that I think are really good. One is the Sony XR, 75 X 95, J 75 inch. Both of these are 75 inches rolls.
Leo Laporte (00:29:57):
Trippingly off the tongue.
Scott Wilkinson (00:29:58):
Trippingly off the D it's it's
Leo Laporte (00:30:01):
We'll put in this show notes. Are you writing this down? My I am. Okay.
Scott Wilkinson (00:30:05):
Good XR. Dash 75 X 95 J
Leo Laporte (00:30:09):
Right on
Scott Wilkinson (00:30:10):
2200 bucks. Okay. It's it's a 2021 model. Zon 2020 twos are not yet out yet, but I, I think, you know, the 2021 models are fine. The other one is from Samsung, it's called the 75 QN 90
Leo Laporte (00:30:29):
A, is this one of those QED?
Scott Wilkinson (00:30:32):
It is a
Leo Laporte (00:30:33):
Q or is it a QD OED?
Scott Wilkinson (00:30:35):
It's not a QD lead.
Leo Laporte (00:30:36):
It's a QED. Okay.
Scott Wilkinson (00:30:38):
It's a QED. In fact, it's a Neo Q.
Leo Laporte (00:30:44):
Does that mean, it, it, it took the red pill.
Scott Wilkinson (00:30:47):
It did. It took the red pill and now it's down the rabbit hole.
Leo Laporte (00:30:50):
Okay. Exactly,
Scott Wilkinson (00:30:51):
Exactly. Anyway, that one's 2,600 bucks.
Leo Laporte (00:30:55):
Okay.
Scott Wilkinson (00:30:55):
It's a little more, but I would recommend it if you can spend two to $3,000, I'd get the Samsung. Yeah. Well, why, because Neo, among other things in Samsung speak refers to mini L E D. Now the, the backlight of all LCD TVs these days is an array of LEDs. The cheaper ones, the LEDs are on the edge of the screen. And as we've talked about before, I never recommend that. But in this case, it's a full array, local diming behind the screen, L E D backlight. And there are many LEDs they're smaller than usual. And so there are more of them and the dimming zones are smaller and there are more of them. And, and this is better. Generally speaking better. Now, the, the rating site, R ings, R T I N G s.com compares these two TVs and prefers the Samsung for its mini L E D backlight, and also for its what's called black uniformity. So if you're watching a space scene, for example the black of space will look very uniform more so than on the Sony, according to art.
Leo Laporte (00:32:16):
Okay.
Scott Wilkinson (00:32:16):
And, and that's it, that's important now. You're not gonna one to necessarily watch a lot of space stuff in fly, edit with bright light, cuz it's gonna, there is a reflection problem on just about any TV. If you've got a, a big bright window directly opposite your TV and you're sitting there trying to watch it, you've got this, a reflection of the window in the TV and dark. You're gonna see that on dark scenes really,
Leo Laporte (00:32:43):
Really
Scott Wilkinson (00:32:43):
Well. So there's, and there's not much you can do about it. So you know, he's gotta take that with a grain of salt.
Leo Laporte (00:32:54):
I would also say if you have a budget, don't just use budget for the TV, gotta consider what you're gonna do for audio. What you're gonna do, do do, if you know, to Mount it just the TV by itself, what you're gonna put it on, maybe what you're gonna paint the room. I mean the TV, maybe even buy some curtains, the TV it's alone is not the whole experience.
Scott Wilkinson (00:33:18):
Well, you exactly right about that. And, and I was a little taken aback when he said unable to block with curtains.
Mikah Sargent (00:33:26):
Yeah. What kinda light are we working with there?
Scott Wilkinson (00:33:28):
Yeah, really? What kind of room is this? Why can't you put, put up curtains? That, that was a, a little strange to me is, is you should be able to put curtains on just about any with, this is
Leo Laporte (00:33:40):
The challenge. This is your assignment. Should you choose to accept it?
Scott Wilkinson (00:33:44):
There
Leo Laporte (00:33:45):
Will be be no curtains.
Scott Wilkinson (00:33:47):
There will be no.
Leo Laporte (00:33:48):
So I gotta say, if he's got direct sunlight shining in that window, on the TV, I don't care what he buys.
Scott Wilkinson (00:33:56):
It's not, it's gonna be a problem.
Leo Laporte (00:33:58):
Not gonna,
Scott Wilkinson (00:33:58):
It's gonna be a problem. Maybe put
Leo Laporte (00:34:00):
A TV against the windows. At least the windows will be behind the TV.
Scott Wilkinson (00:34:04):
Right? Well talk about a bias light. Yeah.
Leo Laporte (00:34:08):
Yeah.
Scott Wilkinson (00:34:09):
That's a little bit, but
Leo Laporte (00:34:10):
At least more than what you want the screen.
Scott Wilkinson (00:34:12):
Well, will he, there's so much light coming in from the window that his pupils will be so constricted.
Leo Laporte (00:34:20):
It's a tough, that's a tough assignment. I don't think any, I mean, clearly O led and plasma are gonna be too dim for this
Scott Wilkinson (00:34:26):
Too dim. He's gonna have to get an L L E D TV,
Leo Laporte (00:34:28):
But let's not overstate the capabilities. I mean, it may not be able to overpower the light. If it's shining directly
Scott Wilkinson (00:34:34):
In, if it's shining directly on the TV, then, then nothing will. So
Leo Laporte (00:34:39):
I, I suggest that I think we should make the thing I've just invented in my mind called the TV hood, which you put over your TV and then it goes, it's like a big blanket. Basically. It could be a blanket. That's great. It goes over behind your head. And then you're watching the TV in a TV tent. Maybe we'll call it TV, tent,
Scott Wilkinson (00:34:58):
TV, tent. And, and here's an O here's another option to do that instead of putting it over the TV, put one, wear one on your head.
Leo Laporte (00:35:07):
There is, and, and, and we can ask Dick de Bartolo to show us cuz he has it TV hat.
Scott Wilkinson (00:35:15):
It has a,
Leo Laporte (00:35:15):
A very long bill. It's about a foot or two out. And then you put your, it has a phone or you know, you, you just put the phone there and you just wear the hat. I have it somewhere. And it, by the way, presaging our invention of the TV tent does have like a little curtain that you can draw around
Scott Wilkinson (00:35:34):
Your head, just put on the side.
Leo Laporte (00:35:35):
So you look like an insane
Scott Wilkinson (00:35:37):
Person walking down the street. Now, you know, professionals use these tents around monitors on site. Yes. You make it up. So okay. Now you didn't make it up. Scott Wilkinson home theater geek take tech hive.com. Thank you, Scott. We have a link. Thanks to scooter X to the original TV hat.
Mikah Sargent (00:35:55):
Oh, that is ridiculous.
Scott Wilkinson (00:35:57):
Oh, let's see. You gotta gotta see the TV hat. I have it somewhere. I probably keep it at home where I use it all the time. This look at that. Oh my God. Well, they, I don't know about the sexy model. That's not really the people who wear this. That's more like it. There you go. Driving down the street with his TV hat on. Look at that. Wow. They really had to put this woman in a bikini on her exerciser. Yeah. I don't think she's wearing the TV hat on the exerciser. I really don't.
Mikah Sargent (00:36:34):
Oh my goodness. You can get a magnification lens
Scott Wilkinson (00:36:37):
For case you, they have a small phone. Oh, look, see they, they show with an IPO iPod that just shows you how old this thing is designed to block outside. Oh, you could actually, oh, I see you put the thing. You put the iPod or the handheld device in the hat. It's in the bill. Yeah. It's in the bill. I have one somewhere, I think. Anyway, let's give Scott. Oh, that's weird. His due. Oh, thank you so much. Yes, Scotty. Hello everyone. All yours. My friend. Let me give you a thank you. Big old clock. I know the big old clock, the big old clock. There it is. There's no big old. Oh, Hey, go away. You're not part of show. Neither are you. There we go. The big O clock driving long, big, sir. All yours. Ah, big sir. One of my favorite places in the world.
Scott Wilkinson (00:37:29):
And now I can take a day trip there. You're practically there. Ah, Santa Cruz is lovely. It's a little rainy today, but that's okay. We went and saw an amazing concert at KU Kumba you know, the, the jazz club Kumba oh yeah, that was there when I was there. The Kumba jazz club. Wow. Yeah, it's celebrating. It's like 30th or 35th anniversary. Something like I, that I remember Kumba wow. Well, they we've seen Diane Reeves there. We saw an artist just the other night by the name of Omar Sosa. He's a Cuban pianist. And he had with him a, an African musician who plays an instrument called the Cora, which is a sort of a double Gord, a harp and a Venezuelan percussionist. And oh man, they were so awesome. And I was thinking, Joanna, my wife was thinking the same thing we were saying that in LA you know, we would've had to drive an hour to get someone it's kinda neat to see a group like that. You just
Leo Laporte (00:38:39):
Walk down
Scott Wilkinson (00:38:40):
Almost. Yeah. Almost. It's like 10 minutes away from our house.
Leo Laporte (00:38:44):
Yeah. That's great.
Scott Wilkinson (00:38:45):
You know, so,
Leo Laporte (00:38:46):
And parking is easy. I know. It's nice. If you have a small town where they actually have music, that's the exactly.
Scott Wilkinson (00:38:52):
And a lot of great musicians come through Santa Cruz to go to Kumba to play at
Leo Laporte (00:38:57):
Cumba. Yeah. That's nice. That's great.
Scott Wilkinson (00:38:59):
So that, that was just so awesome. And we said, we get to live this life. We get
Leo Laporte (00:39:04):
To
Scott Wilkinson (00:39:04):
Live here.
Leo Laporte (00:39:07):
Very nice. Very nice. The Kumba jazz. Yeah. They were there when I was a
Scott Wilkinson (00:39:13):
Kid. Yeah. They just started up when
Leo Laporte (00:39:15):
It's more than 30 years. It's gotta be
Scott Wilkinson (00:39:17):
Maybe it's 40. Yeah.
Leo Laporte (00:39:19):
Yeah. It's gotta be because I remember it. And maybe it's just like, maybe this is kind of the second incarnation or something, but,
Scott Wilkinson (00:39:26):
Well, yeah, let me, let me look. 'em Up
Leo Laporte (00:39:31):
Great name. Yeah, I guess it could be that cuz my mom lived there until the early nineties. So it could just have been, I saw it when I would go down and visit mom Leo. Leport the tech guy, Mike Sergeant tech guy too on the line, our next call. And it is Scott and binging. Bing Binghamton, New York. Hi Scott
Caller 2 (00:40:01):
Binghamton. That's easy for you to say Binghamton.
Leo Laporte (00:40:04):
I know SUNY Binghamton. I know Binghamton.
Caller 2 (00:40:06):
Yes, yes, yes. Hi Leo. Hi Mikah Sargent. Hello? Hey, I need from you a recommendation. Do
Leo Laporte (00:40:17):
I still owe you money? Oh,
Scott Wilkinson (00:40:19):
Okay. No,
Caller 2 (00:40:19):
No, no.
Leo Laporte (00:40:20):
It scared me. Okay. I need my $60 that I let you in 1972,
Caller 2 (00:40:28):
But I think you, you just got a, a, a Mac studio, right?
Leo Laporte (00:40:32):
I did. I love my Mac studio, but it is no faster. Ironically then my 14 inch MacBook pro or the M one Macintosh first generation, the I, the Mac mini that I'm sitting right across from right now.
Caller 2 (00:40:46):
Well I here a little bit ago bought the M one Mac mini, just the, you know, the,
Leo Laporte (00:40:54):
So here's the thing you should know. You may be temp by the studio because everybody's going Ooh, but the studio M one single core performance is identical to that mini that you have single core is identical to that mini you have, they, the, those M one S all run at the same speed clock speed. So the difference is are with the new studios, you can get more Ram. You can get more Thunderball ports. And if you're using the, the multi-core performance or the graphics performance, you certainly can go crazy. You know, you can get the M M one ultra, which has something like 130 billion transistors in it. I mean, it's crazy. Right. But most people would not notice a difference. I certainly don't.
Caller 2 (00:41:43):
Okay.
Leo Laporte (00:41:44):
What do you do? What are you doing?
Caller 2 (00:41:46):
Well, the, I I'm just doing the, you know, the
Leo Laporte (00:41:49):
Normal,
Caller 2 (00:41:50):
Yeah. The normal,
Leo Laporte (00:41:51):
Not doing video editing fo editing. No, not, not compositing 3d images for your animated feature. None of that. Yeah. Then you won't really be getting any benefit. You know, my, I got my wife cuz she says, I want the fastest computer. I said, but you don't need, I want the fastest. So I got her, the studio map X with M one max in it. That's the top of the line.
Caller 2 (00:42:16):
Right.
Leo Laporte (00:42:16):
And and I set it all up for her. Then I got me just the regular M one pro no, she has the ultra ultra. Sorry I got the max. This one is not, is an M one, nothing the, and there. And my, and my laptop's M one pro. So I think I have the full range. M one M one M one max and then M one ultra all for, but it for browsing, word processing, almost everything one normally does. They're the same. They're functionally the same. The only issue is how much Ram you know, how many additional little features, how many, how many ports for instance that your mini doesn't my money do not have a lot of ports.
Caller 2 (00:42:54):
Yeah. Okay. One last thing you can do for me. And I, I need a, I think it's Thunderbolt. Will it drive a display port?
Leo Laporte (00:43:07):
Yes. So you have a monitor that uses display port,
Caller 2 (00:43:11):
Right?
Leo Laporte (00:43:12):
In fact, you wanna even on your M one mini, you wanna get a Thunderbolt type C adapter to display port because that's the only one that'll do 120 Hertz refresh rates. So if you're you have a monitor that can do more, the HTM I ports on every single Mac, including
Caller 2 (00:43:32):
Oh, right.
Leo Laporte (00:43:32):
They're all 2.0, they're all slow. I they're not the latest, I don't know what apple was thinking. They've kind of screwed up on the display issue. So I am driving two displays off this M one mini one over the HDM. I port one over the display port using that. And, and, and it has to be a, you know, specifically, you know, type C Thunderbolt, two display, port cable, full size display, port cable. So I got mine from cable matters on Amazon as about 17 bucks.
Caller 2 (00:44:05):
Can you do me a favor and drop a link to that? Sure can. I'm having trouble.
Leo Laporte (00:44:11):
Yeah. I, you know, I was, we were messing around, we had adapters. We try, you know, I have the apple after we try all different stuff. And I think the problem was mini display. Port is identical to Thunderbolt too. And I think the adapters we were using were not display compatible. They, they didn't, this is very confusing nowadays. Cuz all thunder, all the types C adapters look the same, but they could be USB three. They could be USB 3, 1 32. They could be thunder three thunder bowl, fours, USB four. You don't know they could carry display. They could carry charge. You don't know unless they label it. Nobody labels it. So you just have to look at the specs carefully and apple with the displays is really kind of fun. So what are you thinking of getting a studio?
Caller 2 (00:44:54):
Well, like I say, I think the M one Mac mini is, is good enough it's for me. But
Leo Laporte (00:44:59):
You won't notice a difference. Yeah. I don't think, yeah. I ended up getting all four just to see.
Caller 2 (00:45:06):
Right.
Leo Laporte (00:45:07):
And you know, certainly if you're gonna use graphics, you know, you've got something that uses multiple processors or graphics, it's gonna make a difference for sure. And it's amazing what they've done, but essentially all of them are kind of it's the same chip it's it's based on the a 14 iPhone, a 14 chip and, and the clock speed is the same across the board. So I, you know, apple does a lot of hand waving and their graphs are very hand wavy because they don't, you know, they kind of, they're
Caller 2 (00:45:36):
Kind of, yeah. They don't show you where
Leo Laporte (00:45:38):
You can't on detail. So it's really important to understand what you're getting and what you need. And, and I, I think you can easily over buy on a Mac studio. So if, but if you needed 64 gigs or 120 egg gigs of Ram, then you would
Caller 2 (00:45:52):
Right. Who needs that? That is one place. I think I, I kind of undersold. I only got the eight gig.
Leo Laporte (00:45:59):
Yeah. I got, I did get the 16 gig. I think sixteen's sufficient for most uses eight might be a little low. Yeah. And you know what? Wait, because we're not done apple. In fact the latest rumor is Apple's gonna introduce something like four or five new max in June. They've already started testing them. We're seeing 'em in the databases. So there is the apple, this mark Garman, the big Bloomberg apple guy. Right. He's the big he's Mr. Rumor, man, what is he saying to Mikah Sargent? He's like, he's saying this is gonna be the busiest year Apple's ever had. Yep.
Mikah Sargent (00:46:33):
Particularly with max there are quite a few coming down the pipeline.
Caller 2 (00:46:38):
They're talking about nine max or something like that. Yes.
Leo Laporte (00:46:41):
This year. Yeah. Including a Mac pro
Mikah Sargent (00:46:44):
At least nine new M two based max. Yeah.
Leo Laporte (00:46:47):
But for most people now, if you wanted a laptop, I would say it might be worth waiting to June to see what with the MacBook air, cuz it's gonna be other things. It's gonna be an M two, which isn't much faster, maybe 10, 20% faster, but it's gonna be colors. I think, you know, there'll be some, some interesting things they'll do with the M two. But honestly, because of, you know, one of the things Apple's facing at this point, Shanghai is shut down cuz of COVID like everything stopped. They make a ton of stuff there. Not just iPhones. They make the laptops there. They make a lot of stuff there. This is a big problem for apple going forward. Yeah. So there may be some real shortages. They've already pushed the studios out to July. So there may be, be some chip shortages that apple has to struggle with too. I think what you got is fine.
Caller 2 (00:47:36):
Okay, sir. Thank you.
Leo Laporte (00:47:37):
Just get the right cable. We'll put a link in the show notes. I went through this, suffered this, you saw me suffering indeed. Trying to get all the things working. There are a couple of good docs too, that work with the mini. That will let you do that as well. But I, I like the idea. You've only got two type C ports on there. So I have one port going to a dock, which gives me all the other ports, got that one from anchor. That's a nice little dock. I'll give you a link to that. The other one goes to this display in front of me using display port. It's a Thunderbolt to display port and then the other monitors driven by the HGM I port. So we've maxed out. There's no room. That would be the one thing that you'd get with the studio. Get lots more ports, lots more ports. 88, 88 act Leo. That's the phone number. If you want to talk high tech Mike sergeants here he is our iOS and Mac expert among other things. So he's a good person to ask these. You have a M one
Leo Laporte (00:48:44):
Studio,
Mikah Sargent (00:48:45):
M one studio. Max.
Leo Laporte (00:48:46):
Max. Yes. Like me. Yes. Fine. Right?
Mikah Sargent (00:48:49):
Yeah. Oh a hundred percent. Now
Leo Laporte (00:48:51):
You also got the Mac studio display and they have some questions about that. What do you think?
Mikah Sargent (00:48:56):
Well, as I've said, I, for, for me the display is everything. It it's, it's exactly what I want. And the, the bad webcam is sad, but I'm okay with not having that part of it. Yeah. I just wanted the display with the all in one. It's good looking
Leo Laporte (00:49:08):
Display and it's easy. It sounds good. Display. Yeah. All right. Leo Laport, Mike, a Sergeant, your tech guys too. Now ladies and gentlemen, without further ado, I give to you the star of our show.
Scott Wilkinson (00:49:31):
Santa
Leo Laporte (00:49:31):
Claus, I forgot to say, did you have a Sater? Did you do a Sater?
Scott Wilkinson (00:49:36):
We actually did our, our community in LA does what, what we call a samples Sater or a yeah. It's it's about a phony.
Leo Laporte (00:49:45):
Yeah.
Scott Wilkinson (00:49:45):
A phony Sater yeah. Model. Sader that's what it's model
Leo Laporte (00:49:49):
Modelers. It's not Jewish people. Well, it is hell it is Jewish ish.
Scott Wilkinson (00:49:53):
It's Jewish ish. It's yeah. It's about a week before
Leo Laporte (00:49:57):
Modeler is a good way to describe it.
Scott Wilkinson (00:49:58):
Pass Passover so that those who might not have done one before. Yeah. You know, would know what it's about. Yeah. So we did that.
Leo Laporte (00:50:07):
Oh, and you did that via zoom. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz that's how you've been doing it the last three years.
Scott Wilkinson (00:50:13):
So afraid. So I don't know whether, whether they'll do the new year's celebrations remotely or not either
Leo Laporte (00:50:22):
It's all up in the air now. I know it's really
Scott Wilkinson (00:50:25):
Up
Leo Laporte (00:50:26):
Is coming back strong. So I know I have a bookmark in my browser. I check daily to see what Sonoma county's doing. We're okay. So far. But the problem is hospitalizations and death lag. So you can, and nobody everybody's testing at home. So the testing results lag. Right? The one thing that I, that they have, which I like is wastewater surveillance.
Scott Wilkinson (00:50:47):
Yes.
Leo Laporte (00:50:48):
Which does not lag, but it
Scott Wilkinson (00:50:51):
Gives you
Leo Laporte (00:50:51):
The real, I don't know if they have anything close to us scoop, so to speak scoop, it's a scoop, it's a poop scoop. And they tell you exactly. You know, how much is in the, in the water. Yeah. Which is, turns out to be a good indicator better than testing cuz everybody nobody's testing, you know, and they're all testing at home. So testings
Scott Wilkinson (00:51:12):
Not who's reporting those
Leo Laporte (00:51:13):
Very few, but unfortunately we don't have any I see no data points for the sewage, so Oh well we're gonna, we're gonna have to wing it sand. Cruz's probably very similar, right? Yeah.
Scott Wilkinson (00:51:27):
Yeah. I would think so.
Leo Laporte (00:51:28):
I've been going out about without a mask. I kind
Scott Wilkinson (00:51:30):
Of want, I have too. My wife has, has been masking up more than me. That's
Leo Laporte (00:51:34):
Fine. I see both, you know, and I think we are very accepting now. It's like, okay, whatever, whatever you like, do you wear a mask? Mikah Sargent, when you walk around?
Mikah Sargent (00:51:43):
Oh heavens yes.
Leo Laporte (00:51:44):
Everywhere. It's up here.
Mikah Sargent (00:51:46):
Yeah. Not here. Yeah. Not here, but if I to go to the store, something like that, a wear mask, other people look at me sometimes and say,
Scott Wilkinson (00:51:52):
Yeah, you're you're right. Mikah Sargent. You're you you've got the right idea. I should do it more than I I, oh,
Mikah Sargent (00:51:57):
I should. I should be clear. I'm not shaming anyone. I hope no one can say that.
Scott Wilkinson (00:52:00):
No, no, no, no, no, no. I didn't feel that at all. Okay, good. I didn't, it's just, it's just, it's just your choice. It's and choice. Think it's a good choice. Yeah. I, I really do. Yeah. And, and it's just, you know, I forget to put one in the car, right. My pocket or whatever. And then I go, oh, I don't have one. I just need to put one in all the places I normally am so that I can just grab it and go. Cause I would,
Leo Laporte (00:52:21):
Well, I, in fact, I forgot to mention, but I'm gonna show you when we come back, the lady who does tiny or AAMI has sent us some masks,
Mikah Sargent (00:52:29):
Are they tiny? Oh
Scott Wilkinson (00:52:30):
Really? Or AAMI
Leo Laporte (00:52:31):
Masks? No, but stay tuned. Okay.
Scott Wilkinson (00:52:34):
Okay. All right.
Mikah Sargent (00:52:37):
Right. It's coffee time.
Scott Wilkinson (00:52:39):
It's coffee time. You guys go get some coffee. So Hey everybody. Nice to see you all.
Scott Wilkinson (00:52:50):
Oh, that's good. Mike B says my synagogue has reopened and removed mask requirements except for when you're on the Bema. Okay. So but does that mean that the rabbi is, is masked when he or she is speaking? Certainly not the Cantor. I would assume. That's very interesting. Ken Crowley asked what's the difference between the Visio M series and V series 4k TVs? The biggest difference as I recall is the number of LEDs behind the screen and the number of dimming zones. And I'm sure the M series gets brighter. M series has more LEDs, more diming zones. But even then the M series doesn't have that many. I think they have 90 diming zones. My friend, Pete Pak I, a couple weeks ago, I talked about a video that he has on YouTube and I do recommend you go check it out.
Scott Wilkinson (00:53:47):
His YouTube handle is nano Palo Mackey, N a N O P a L O M a K. I he's got a video where he actually deconstructs a Visio. I think it's an M series. Completely takes it apart and shows you the back lighting and the quantum.film and all that stuff. It's really interesting. And I'm pretty sure it was an M series and it has 180 LEDs in groups of two, so 90 diming zones, but the, the V series, as, as I recall, probably doesn't have any more than 32 diming zones and you really want more dimming zones. You really do because with, with a low number of dimming zones, if you have a very bright, but very small object on an otherwise dark background it will have blooming around it. You'll see a, a halo around it and that's kind of distressing. Thank you, chicken head 21 all as well with us. We are, we are having a grand old time here.
Scott Wilkinson (00:55:00):
Swamp rat has four COVID shots. We're getting our fourth. Probably later this month, we're actually going to going to my wife's nephews wedding in Cleveland, Ohio, the first major trip we've taken since the pandemic started. And we will certainly mask on the plane and at the airport. I mean, I think it's still required and rightly so in my opinion. So we'll certainly be masking a lot on that trip, but that's in June and we thought, you know what, let's get our fourth booster or our second booster, fourth shot you know, maybe a month or so before we go, so that it has sort of maximum effectiveness by then. So that's what we're planning to do. Thank you. Tech Dino Jayma with so many players in the home theater, audio electronics, how do you keep up? Well, you know, if you're interested in something, you, you, you keep up, I get a lot of emails. I'm on a lot of lists that indicate, you know, that send me news about stuff. So
Scott Wilkinson (00:56:20):
Oh, Jim Allen you have asked the question of questions. I, I had meant to mention this. I'm gonna do, I'm gonna mention this for sure on next week's show, but you have have asked me, you need to get your own show again, your fans, miss you, any possibility of this happening? The answer is yes. I, in fact, the podcast is starting back up and you heard it here. First folks it is going to be under the auspices of AVS forum. And it's gonna start in a week and a half. So next Saturday I will be making an announcement on the radio show about it and where you can tune in. So this is very exciting news, very exciting news graveyard, tuba, you want it back, you get it. And the, the, the entire band isn't getting back together, it's gonna be a new band but I'm, but I'm still gonna be the lead singer as it were the front man, so to speak, and we're gonna have guests like we did before. And I'm gonna have some co-hosts now and again, and it's gonna be great, gonna really be great.
Scott Wilkinson (00:57:48):
Let's see Dr. Mcintosh says yeah, he's interested in the Samsung, the freestyle, which is a, a portable little projector, which I hadn't really heard too much about. You can you wanna, how can I remain in touch? You can email me. My email is Scott twi.tv. So that's pretty easy. And just, yeah, send me an email to that. And I'll let you know what I find out about it. James is exactly. Now we're talking. Mikahsks, what what TV do I currently have? It is a Sony 65 inch, a one E it's, their first generation OED. And so therefore it's several years old, but it still looks great. It looks fantastic. Soon I will get a new one, but for now that one someday
Leo Laporte (00:58:48):
I, I will get a new TV. Thank you. Thanks Scott.
Scott Wilkinson (00:58:53):
My pleasure Leo, next week, next week, I'm announcing the return of my podcast.
Mikah Sargent (00:58:58):
What's it called?
Scott Wilkinson (00:59:01):
AVS forum tech talk. Oh,
Leo Laporte (00:59:03):
Nice. Yay. Well, Hey, Hey. Hey, how are you today? Leo? LePort here. Mic a. Now after I say that you say mic a Sergeant here.
Mikah Sargent (00:59:12):
Oh, mic a Sergeant here. Tech guy
Leo Laporte (00:59:15):
Two. That's confusing. Leo Laporte here. Mic a Sergeant there. No, that makes no sense.
Mikah Sargent (00:59:20):
Either mic a Sergeant also here.
Leo Laporte (00:59:22):
I got two of us as there, as there has been on Saturdays. Now I got a little package from Michigan from a tiny gamy. This is you. Were you, you? I don't think you were around when she called Stacy is has tiny gamy little tiny, teeny Wey, AAMI. She makes so cute. Isn't it? I have a lot of it at T a T I N Y G ami.com. And I guess she's doing masks now, cuz she sent us a whole bunch of masks and I think she was thinking of you cuz there's some stuff that you might like in here too. So Stacy, thank you. Token of appreci and for all the Etsy orders I received from your listeners. Aww. So she said, I thought I should send one to you, Lisa and Mikah Sargent, which of course led to my kids, Abby and Henry, which led to Kim, which led to everyone in your studio. Aww that's she's put names on them all and so forth. But look at the one she sent me as a computer. That's
Mikah Sargent (01:00:21):
Good board
Leo Laporte (01:00:22):
On there. Yeah. And I think Lisa might the 49ers one. Yeah. And who's the cocktails. Oh Kim, you get cocktails. I dunno. It's got well, that's cute. My Thai recipes. Let's see this is this is for my son salt, Hank. Neat. It's got cleavers and tenderizer. Cute on it. He's the TikTok star. And then the kitty cats gotta be for Lisa. Yeah. Oh my goodness. Every she's very thoughtful. Thank you. Sweet. Thank you
Mikah Sargent (01:00:51):
Stacy. Personalized and everything.
Leo Laporte (01:00:52):
Well that's another computer one. That's for, for John. He runs the, the studio on the board and this one is for you. Mikah Sargent. You get a computer, you get Oh and Michael's gonna love the green big Packers mask. Thank you Stacy. That's very sweet of you. Very, very sweet of you. 88, 88 ask, you know here's one for Jennifer it's tacos. Yes, she does like tacos, Stacy and Jennifer. Yeah, my Jennifer, my, my ex the mother of my children. I didn't know my oh, as the children say the baby mama, right? Is that what they say is
Mikah Sargent (01:01:30):
What they say?
Leo Laporte (01:01:31):
My baby mama.
Mikah Sargent (01:01:33):
I don't know if you should say it, but what they say,
Leo Laporte (01:01:35):
We're very, we're very close. We're very close. And she does love tacos. So I will make sure she gets that and Burke gets wrenches. Wow. This is really
Mikah Sargent (01:01:43):
Is so sweet. They're all customized and everything. Yeah.
Leo Laporte (01:01:46):
Thank you Stacy. Very sweet.
Mikah Sargent (01:01:48):
I'm gonna be ordering some tiny gummy. I don't know if she tiny dogs
Leo Laporte (01:01:51):
Or if she just does this for fun. Oh
Mikah Sargent (01:01:53):
No. I want a tiny little Chihuahua.
Kim Schaffer (01:01:55):
No, she was selling them.
Leo Laporte (01:01:56):
Oh good. Yeah. Yeah. They're very nice. We
Kim Schaffer (01:01:58):
Had a very long conversation about it and she asked me what people would like, so,
Leo Laporte (01:02:02):
Oh, that's how she knows.
Kim Schaffer (01:02:04):
Part of that is me.
Mikah Sargent (01:02:05):
Good work on your part. Thank you, Kevin.
Leo Laporte (01:02:08):
You can come get your, my time mask. Anytime eighty, eighty eight, eighty eight. Ask Leo the phone number. We'll go back to the phones here. Let's see. Very patient. Thank you, Dave. Also from Binghamton New York, what are the odds of that? That's great. Welcome
Caller 3 (01:02:27):
Binghamton. Thank you. Yeah. A nice little Binghamton bookend for the top of the hour.
Leo Laporte (01:02:31):
A Binghamton book end. What can we do for you?
Caller 3 (01:02:36):
Yeah, so, well I'm calling because I having an issue with Google handling a negative review for a different business on my account.
Leo Laporte (01:02:45):
Oh, how annoying. And this is so annoying because this review system is so easily gamed. So Yelp, Google reviews, all, all of the other review sites. It is not at all uncommon for competitors to come there. Or maybe you just get, look, every business gets one disgruntled customer who, you know, maybe you made her wear a mask and she's decided to, to go nuclear on you. I'm so sorry. So have you, what, what recourse have you tried?
Caller 3 (01:03:14):
Well, so it's my first review ever. I just created the, oh,
Leo Laporte (01:03:17):
It's your review. You're leaving a review. No,
Caller 3 (01:03:20):
No, no, no.
Leo Laporte (01:03:21):
Oh, it was first review for your business. Got it, got it. Got it.
Caller 3 (01:03:24):
Correct. Yep. And so it's a Cotail store, so different businesses, rent space in this building and the person reviewed cards that there reviewed the business that's to the right of me. Yeah.
Leo Laporte (01:03:43):
As you
Caller 3 (01:03:44):
And correct.
Leo Laporte (01:03:46):
Oh, so it's not even a review of you,
Caller 3 (01:03:48):
Correct? No. And when I wrote, so I, I wrote to Google using their form saying this is it does not meet the policies because false review and they denied that and I appealed it and they denied it. Oh, and there's no, there's no further re appeal on that, on that portion. I did go to the community and there's not much the, you know, community members there can do, I don't believe, but I I'm trying to figure out if like a reputation, you know, those reputation websites that say they can help, would be worth it. But you know, being the first two star review first review at two stars about something that's not me is annoying. And for them to say, oh no, it doesn't, it's not fake. And I, I used an example when I even reached out on Twitter to the Google, my business people or small business people, they said I was like, so it's okay for someone to review burger king on a McDonald's page. Is that how they're
Leo Laporte (01:04:53):
You're, you're in the right, but also Google, unfortunately.
Leo Laporte (01:05:00):
And they're in the wrong I'll but what, how, what can you do? What can you do? I mean, you're, you're kind of, this is we're and this is the problem with the power of these companies. You know, if you have a bad review on Google that's, that's troubling, but if they refuse to review it, I don't know. Who do you appeal to? There's no Supreme court, it's a private business and private businesses, you know can, can do as they wish, even if they're in the wrong, you could soothe them for defamation. I mean, you could go after them. I don't think you wanna do that. Trust me. It's I don't know if you've ever gone to court over anything. Yeah. my here's what I would suggest. I would say get a lot of other people to review your business and those good reviews will swamp, that one negative review. And you might even, can you, do they allow you to post a rebuttal?
Caller 3 (01:05:57):
Yeah. You can respond to it, which I did. And I said, just
Leo Laporte (01:06:00):
Say, this isn't my business. This is an error. And I think any sensible, person's gonna see that and say, oh, but the next thing to do is if that's the only review on your site that's or on the Google business profiles, that's the problem. Go get some more reviews. And by the way, most people look at Yelp, not Google,
Caller 3 (01:06:18):
Right.
Leo Laporte (01:06:19):
On the other hand, if
Caller 3 (01:06:19):
They I'm just concerned, concerned, if I reach out to people and that a bunch of my friends put positive reviews in a short, short amount of time.
Leo Laporte (01:06:28):
Yeah. No, no. Yeah. So let's fight fire with fire. I think it's completely okay to just go to your friends or go to face book and say, Hey, we've got this one review of our store. We think we're good. If you come in or do people come into your store or is it mail order?
Caller 3 (01:06:46):
No, they do come into the business. It's so how the code retail works is you rent space and they,
Leo Laporte (01:06:51):
Yeah, I understand. Yeah. Yeah. You see, you have one big space and there's a booth next to you got a bad review. Yeah. And Google, Google says what, you're all the same address. So that's your business. Yeah. That's the problem with this? The, the real problem with all of these Google, Facebook, apple, Microsoft, they're so big that there aren't enough humans in the world to do this, you know, customer service. So it's mostly done in an automated fashion. And then if it is your reviewed by a human that humans reviewing 1000, you know, requests a day. And so they go fast. So he looks at the addresses, the same address, come on, gimme a break dude. And he rejects it. That's a flaw in their process. I'm not gonna give him a pass. You know, that's bad people who listen to this should now consider when you read reviews.
Leo Laporte (01:07:42):
I think this has always been the case on Yelp, Google, or anywhere, Amazon, especially to take everything with a grain of salt. You're gonna look at the bulk of reviews, not any individual review. And I think it's okay for you to put a sign up in your store saying, please do us a favor, review us on Google. I I know I, I have stores that there are, there are services that you can subscribe to text based messaging services. Whereas somebody leaves your store. They get a text message that saying, how is our service? We have a sponsor podium that does this. It's not, I think they have a free tier. You, how is our service? Leave us a review on Google or Yelp. So there's things you can do to encourage reviews, which you should do. Right. I know in these, in these, in these co you know, colocation situations, you probably don't get dozens of customers a day, but you could put a little sign up on your booth that says help us. You know, we have a bad review, we need bad, we need good reviews. If you like what we've got, what, what do you sell?
Caller 3 (01:08:42):
I do mostly do Funko pops.
Leo Laporte (01:08:44):
Oh, awesome.
Caller 3 (01:08:46):
And actually you, you, I think a Leo Funko pop would be pretty interesting.
Leo Laporte (01:08:50):
I have to talk though. Funko pops are doing it. Yeah. They're those big heads. They're like bobble heads, but they're not quite, how do you do custom ones or do you just procure them?
Caller 3 (01:08:59):
No. Yeah, so I, I buy wholesale from a distributor and I sell them and then I nice buy other people's collections and I'll sell. So if there's higher price ones in my shop, it's normal. One that I bought from someone else at a collection. So I do retail stuff. So it's retail price, but I also will buy.
Leo Laporte (01:09:18):
What's the name of the store? Do you have a name for your
Caller 3 (01:09:22):
Yes. B I collectables
Leo Laporte (01:09:24):
B. I collectibles everybody. Leave a review for how great. Now see, this is risky, cuz there'll be a troll out there. I'll say. Yeah, sure. I'll leave a review as you, you,
Caller 3 (01:09:35):
That was my concern.
Leo Laporte (01:09:37):
Do it with friends. It's okay to do it with friends. It really is just, you know, don't do it all at once and make and have 'em be customers, you know, say I got a great Funko pop and what a deal. And I just sold it for twice. The value I'm rich.
Caller 3 (01:09:56):
All right. I appreciate
Leo Laporte (01:09:57):
It. I'm sorry that happened. Yeah. It's very, you know, this is a, this is a universal problem. I had a, I don't know if you remember, we had a woman call who was having trouble with her Google email. She said, I went to the Google office in Irvine and I pounded on their door. Oh God. But nobody answered because it's a machine. It's all, it's just, we're all being chewed up in this giant, big tech machine. And I think it's important to realize listening to this when you read reviews, understand that's the system. And so keep, you know, keep it in mind. I'm sorry that happened to you. That's I apologize, Dave, on behalf of Google, nothing I can do, unfortunately I don't have any ins there, but I'm sorry, Leo. Leport the tech guy and Mikah Sargent too. We gotta work it, work that out. Yeah. We'll figure that out. I'll go Leo Laporte and Mikah Sargent. That how I sound? No, This is the one that sounds just like Mr. Big shot LeFort. The tech guy. Did you, did you tell professor Laura to play Lubeck? I did not
Mikah Sargent (01:11:12):
Tell. I asked professor Laura to play. Is
Leo Laporte (01:11:15):
She very kindly? This is your favorite. This is your favorite. Is it a band or an artist?
Mikah Sargent (01:11:19):
It's a band. It's a band.
Leo Laporte (01:11:20):
It's not Mr. Wolf Peck. It's a group. It's a group of Wolf, pecks. A Peck. If you feel
Mikah Sargent (01:11:25):
It's so funky. I just love it.
Leo Laporte (01:11:26):
No, this is good. I like it. Hmm. Leo Laporte the tech guy
Mikah Sargent (01:11:32):
And Mica Sergeant tech guy as well.
Leo Laporte (01:11:36):
Also Oso. Molly is on the line from Glendale, California. Hello, Molly.
Caller 4 (01:11:41):
Okay. I was just going crazy listening to this before, but then I just got so annoyed. I had to, to pick up the phone and call because he doesn't need to do all of that and ask permiss. Oh
Leo Laporte (01:11:53):
Good. What can he do?
Caller 4 (01:11:56):
He can just flag the review for being unrelated to that business. And then the bots will remove it.
Leo Laporte (01:12:03):
And where does he flag that review?
Caller 4 (01:12:05):
There's just like a little symbol, like a flag on the review
Leo Laporte (01:12:11):
On your computer open. Oh, do it in maps or in Google search. I see there is there is that now. I don't know if he did that. You're right. So let's make sure he did do that. You can go into your account as well. And flag a review. He says he's had it reviewed three times and they rejected him each time, but that's a good, that's a good point. You can do it on the web. There is a requesting
Caller 4 (01:12:32):
It for the wrong reason,
Leo Laporte (01:12:34):
Ah,
Caller 4 (01:12:35):
For a different reason. Cause there's a list of reasons.
Leo Laporte (01:12:38):
Yeah. Make sure it's it's and the reason is what is the reason you suggest?
Caller 4 (01:12:43):
Well, I think that it's unrelated to the business,
Leo Laporte (01:12:46):
Unrelated to the business.
Caller 4 (01:12:48):
Just try a different one. Cause it's bots. It's
Leo Laporte (01:12:50):
Not, it is bots. Exactly. So exactly. Yeah. Great. Thank you, Molly. Have you had a bad review of your business on Google? Do you know this?
Caller 4 (01:12:59):
No. No, but I always go to small towns and then I see stuff that doesn't make sense and I try to fix it for the little business. Aw
Mikah Sargent (01:13:07):
That's nice.
Leo Laporte (01:13:08):
Thank you. Thank you. That's great. Yeah, I appreciate it. Molly. See, this is where we are all in this together. There you go. Flag it baby. Dan from Encinitas. California is next. Hey Dan.
Caller 5 (01:13:24):
Hi. Hi Leo. How you doing? Good. Hey, I got a question. I got a a Franklin, a T 10 mobile hotspot and it doesn't have much range to it and I wanna use a couple other devices, but they can't be all next to each other a
Leo Laporte (01:13:38):
Hundred. Oh, that's weird. That's weird. And who's it. What is it T-Mobile yeah. Yeah. So they sell this. So you're saying the range. Isn't good. And you can, you can't have devices next to each other doing it. Well, I,
Caller 5 (01:13:54):
What I mean is I have a lot of devices, not all of those devices I want in the same spot and the mobile hotspot doesn't seem to extend very far. Yeah. Or its wifi. I was wondering, is there a way to extend that?
Leo Laporte (01:14:08):
That's an interesting question. So this is what I sometimes call these MiFi cards. This one is a little more like a, a box, but the it's roughly the size of a credit card. The idea is it gets its internet connectivity from the carrier, the mobile carrier, the LTE signal from T-Mobile in this case. Correct. And then it is, becomes a wifi hotspot. Often those are limited to five, you know, honestly T-Mobile is like all carriers. Doesn't want you to use this as your internet access. So they, you know, you pay extra, they have limitations on it and stuff. But I don't, if the antenna and it's not very big, if the antenna's not doing the job.
Caller 5 (01:14:48):
Yeah. There's no, there's no external intent.
Leo Laporte (01:14:50):
Yeah. Every, so this is, how do you feel about brain surgery?
Caller 5 (01:14:56):
Am I taking it apart?
Leo Laporte (01:14:57):
Yeah. So the only way I would know of to extend it is to take it apart. Every, I don't know if this is still true. I, I, I don't think that the standard is changed. Every wifi radio has to have a connector on it that you and use for an external antenna. So inside there there'll be a, a circuit board and antennas. There are internal antennas will be connected to it. If you now, the problem is each wifi chip has a different kind of connector. I don't know why they did that, but they did when they set up this spec. So you'll have to order an antenna from somebody like antenna, web, or actually my favorite for this stuff is Radiolab. And Radiolab Radiolab, plural may have something that would extend it without opening it up, but you can get the little tails from them that match when you open it up, you'll see the chip. And it'll say, what kind of chip it is. And you have to get it by chip. If it's a Thero or whoever, and then you get the tail and they have an external antenna and that certainly would improve it.
Caller 5 (01:16:04):
So there's no way to like, get a wifi, like
Leo Laporte (01:16:07):
A repeater. Yeah. In theory my experience with those is not great, but they, they sell those too go to radiolab.com. Okay. And you'll see a variety of ways to solve this. All right. Including wifi boosters. Generally speaking, what I tell people is it's probably better to get an external antenna cuz you can see, I mean, this thing it's got an antenna in there, but of course it doesn't go very far. Right. It's it's it's side and it's small. So yeah, but you could also get a wifi extender that would would extend it. You'd have to get one that would match it. I would definitely go to Radiolab and see what they've
Caller 5 (01:16:47):
Got. The reason I'm using this. Cause it's in a rural area, not in Sunita, but a rural area and there's really limited internet. Yeah,
Leo Laporte (01:16:55):
No, I understand why T-Mobile now sells residential. You should check into that too. They are designed for this Leo Laport, the tech on Franklin T nine has hidden antenna ports. Look at that. Come on, chatroom. Come on. That
Mikah Sargent (01:17:17):
Was for the T nine though. Not the T 10. That's the only one
Leo Laporte (01:17:20):
Probably, but they're probably similar, similar, right? It's worth,
Mikah Sargent (01:17:22):
I've got links
Leo Laporte (01:17:23):
For that looking. Yeah. So you need to know what connector it is and then you can get, you have to open it up. It probably glued doesn't look like it's screwed together. So you open it up and then you put the little tail on it. It's actually just like a coax, like a tiny coax. You turn it and remove it and then you can have external antennas. You're right. An external extender might work. Okay. The other thing you could do is call T-Mobile and say, I don't like this. T T 10. What do you got? What else you got? Cause that's not the only one they sell. I'm sure. Hmm. Franklin T 10. It's their entry level. Mobile hotspot, dual band wifi, five USBC charging, which is nice. Ah, look at this on eBay. Franklin T 10 mobile hotspot, passive external antenna, adapter 1499. I will put this nice. I will put this in the show notes unless somebody are already has.
Leo Laporte (01:18:33):
So it's made for the T 10. You see, if you look, they have the same seller has tails for the Verizon jet pack and all the net gear air card. And they all have different tails, which is really annoying. So this is an inductive and antenna. So this is actually quite clever. So inductive, passive, external antenna adapter with FME mail connector, connect your device to the antenna. Yeah. This sounds like it's it's good. And then you could put a jaggy. This is not the antenna. This is just the connector. And it says it's induc so it just, you put it like on the, on the box. Yeah, this'll do, this is good. That'll do pig. That'll do so. I should be careful using that. Not everybody knows that that is from, from what babe, babe, the pig. And they think I'm called calling them a pig, which I'm not right. So the farmer was calling babe a pig. That'll do I could just say that'll do, but then nobody would get it unless they say that'll do pig. I should probably get a that'll do pig sound effect. You probably know that Johnny jet. Cuz I bet you Jack has seen babe and loves it.
Johnny Jet (01:19:52):
He has not what?
Leo Laporte (01:19:55):
He's the age? He's babe age.
Johnny Jet (01:19:58):
He likes cartoons.
Leo Laporte (01:19:59):
Yeah. You gotta win. Win him off of that stuff.
Johnny Jet (01:20:03):
Listen, this kid knows more than we do about Marine life. It's incredible. Yeah. He's been watching Okta NA
Leo Laporte (01:20:09):
Nice. What'd you say Johnny? Yeah.
Johnny Jet (01:20:12):
I said buy your tickets.
Leo Laporte (01:20:16):
If you're going anywhere you bought to buy your ticket. Now Johnny jet is here. Johnny jet.com/newsletter. I told Johnny we, we have a, a TWiT cruise, a podcast network cruise for all of our fans coming up to Alaska, July 20 16th or 23rd. And I said, Johnny, that means I probably should buy my ticket to Seattle now. And what'd you say?
Johnny Jet (01:20:39):
I said you should have bought 'em two months ago.
Leo Laporte (01:20:41):
It's too late.
Johnny Jet (01:20:42):
No, it's not too. I mean it's too late for the good deals. Yes it is. But you can still buy 'em because their tickets are still gonna go up.
Leo Laporte (01:20:49):
Oh, they're gonna keep going up. They're never, it's never gonna get cheaper.
Johnny Jet (01:20:53):
I'm not
Leo Laporte (01:20:53):
Used to like kind of fluctuate depending on how well they'd sold and stuff like that.
Johnny Jet (01:20:57):
Definitely. But if you fly midweek, you should. You'll definitely get a much better deal. Also. Wait a minute mention,
Leo Laporte (01:21:03):
Wait a minute. That's contrary to what it used to be because it used to be, you would buy a ticket to go over the weekend. Cuz the business travelers didn't go over the weekend. Now you're saying buy midweek.
Johnny Jet (01:21:15):
Well, in the old days you had to, you had to spend the Saturday night. That was, you get the business travelers. They, they got rid of that.
Leo Laporte (01:21:21):
Oh that's that's long gone.
Johnny Jet (01:21:22):
Although some cities in Europe, they haven't
Leo Laporte (01:21:24):
Okay.
Johnny Jet (01:21:25):
But that's why in Europe you can buy a round trip, take a and just throw away the return. If you're going, let's say from Rome to Paris, by a round trip instead of a one way, I'm going
Leo Laporte (01:21:34):
All out. I'm going to Seattle man. So,
Johnny Jet (01:21:36):
So if you're going to Seattle yeah. You know, go on a Tuesday or Wednesday and you know, whenever you go on a, why is
Leo Laporte (01:21:42):
It better to you go on a Tuesday or Wednesday
Johnny Jet (01:21:44):
Because that's the least amount of travelers.
Leo Laporte (01:21:46):
So there's planes are more likely empty. So they'll get a better deal.
Johnny Jet (01:21:50):
Well, and they're not flying as many definitely.
Leo Laporte (01:21:53):
Oh
Johnny Jet (01:21:53):
Look at, you can look at the TSA checkpoint numbers. Yes. Every day they post 'em at like 7:00 AM Eastern time. Yes. So yesterday 2.3 million went through three years ago. Same exact day, 2.4. We're almost there. And keep in mind, there's not as many business travelers or international travelers, so it's gonna keep going up.
Leo Laporte (01:22:12):
Okay. So if anybody wants to go on this cruise, by the way, cruise.twi.tv, it's gonna be Alaska cruise. It's gonna be fun. I'm gonna be there with my wife. One of our hosts from windows weekly, Paul Thorton, his wife and a bunch, I think about a hundred other people. But some people canceled as you know, sometimes happens. They had red. So we have some, it turns out we got some, a couple extra rooms, which is great. Good. But you're saying I should go. Where and where, how should I buy that ticket?
Johnny Jet (01:22:38):
Well, if you're going on a, whenever you're going on a cruise or anything important, you gotta go one to two days earlier. At least two days, I would say in case, especially if you're traveling internationally. Yeah. Cause
Leo Laporte (01:22:48):
Otherwise I could say, honey, hop the car. We gotta drive to Seattle tonight, but I'm not gonna do that. You
Johnny Jet (01:22:54):
Don't wanna do that.
Leo Laporte (01:22:55):
But,
Johnny Jet (01:22:56):
But there's cases where people, you know, the crew will not
Leo Laporte (01:22:59):
Wait for you. No, I know. They're not gonna hold up the boat. So
Johnny Jet (01:23:01):
Go couple days
Leo Laporte (01:23:02):
Early
Johnny Jet (01:23:02):
Here yet and check out the port city first. Yes, Seattle's great. And also, and if you're on a time zone change, you get, you get accustomed to it. So
Leo Laporte (01:23:09):
Yeah, we always do that. We go a few days early.
Johnny Jet (01:23:12):
Definitely
Leo Laporte (01:23:13):
Just to see the, see the sites. Now this is a, a cruise. Let's see July 16th.
Johnny Jet (01:23:18):
It's probably
Leo Laporte (01:23:19):
A Saturday. There's a Saturday. So we should go out. You're saying Wednesday or Thursday, but Thursday work.
Johnny Jet (01:23:24):
I mean, you're the host. You definitely, Thursday's fine. Okay. Because you're only flying
Leo Laporte (01:23:29):
It's an hour and a half. Yeah. And if something happened, I could drive definitely be kind of hectic, but, but
Mikah Sargent (01:23:36):
Is the assumption here that, because you're going on a cruise, you have the money to pay, pay for a hotel leading up to the cruise for two
Leo Laporte (01:23:42):
Days. That's right. In fact, cruise Travelers, often the package. Sometimes you can add a pre and post cruise in the city. Yeah. Mm. Yeah. Definitely. Like we're gonna go to next year. I think we're going to Lisbon for a cruise. I wanna spend some time. I don't wanna just arrive in Lisbon and jump on a boat. Right. I spend it's Lisbon. Right. For sure. Okay. I
Johnny Jet (01:24:04):
Wanna a Lisbon many times, but also if you're are flying to Seattle, look at Aveo airlines. I've mentioned them before. I don't know if they fly. They, I know, I know they don't fly to CTAC, but they do fly to, I think, Tacoma to a, a secondary airport, which I'm not even familiar with. I know from LA they do and you can get 'em for cheap, but you know, the mainline carriers are gonna charge premium right now. I mean, I was, I was gonna fly from New York to Nantucket in June and it was four 60, I think, or four 50 for four tickets. I just looked today. It's over a thousand dollars.
Leo Laporte (01:24:36):
Wow.
Johnny Jet (01:24:37):
I didn't buy 'em and I'm not going now. Yeah.
Leo Laporte (01:24:39):
But yeah.
Johnny Jet (01:24:40):
So that's the
Leo Laporte (01:24:41):
Point. So okay. And that's that cuz cuz fuel prices, right? Or the roof?
Johnny Jet (01:24:46):
No, it's it's supply and demand. It's it really doesn't have a lot to do with fuel. Fuel's gonna add to it, but it's supply and demand. So many people have been cooped up for the last two years. They want to get out, see their families. They want to travel. They want to get out of their home. So, and there's and the airlines have cut back space flights and they don't have enough workers. There's so many, it's tough to get to people to work right now, especially in the airline industry and pilots. I mean, this is gonna be a problem for years with pilots. They don't have enough, especially the the smaller regional jets.
Leo Laporte (01:25:16):
Yeah. Regional carriers. Yeah.
Johnny Jet (01:25:18):
So keep that in mind. If I was flying I'm I'm actually gonna write a post today for the summer travel. Make sure you book the first flight out in the morning. So avoid thunderstorms, avoid the domino effect of delays. Also avoid towards the end of the month because that's when a lot of the crew time out, they don't need to work and these guys are exhausted. They're their layovers are shorter. People are meaner and they're and the pay is not great.
Leo Laporte (01:25:42):
People are meaner. They're mean they are,
Johnny Jet (01:25:44):
They are. And they, you know, so that in mind.
Leo Laporte (01:25:49):
Okay. Okay.
Johnny Jet (01:25:51):
And there, and also set a fair alert. I, I talked about it. I'll tweet it out. I have a whole list of tips on how to find cheap deals, but setting a fair, alert's a great deal. So do San Francisco or Oakland to Seattle and put in the day you want and or the airlines you want and then it'll alert you when the price goes up or down.
Leo Laporte (01:26:09):
I have to say this has all changed so much. First the airlines had computers, but now we have computers. And so it's parody. Now we can fight fire with fire. And so we can use our computers to, to, you know, to try to even the score. I wonder though, a lot of times young people, these days, they don't buy a computer cuz they've got their phone. Can you, you can do all the same thing on the phone that you can do, I guess.
Johnny Jet (01:26:31):
Definitely. Yeah.
Leo Laporte (01:26:32):
I mean with apps, so
Johnny Jet (01:26:33):
Many apps out there. Yeah. hoppers, a popular app for hopper flights. Yep. Okay. Also I like Scott's cheap flights, not the book flights, but, but they do is they tell you when the price goes down. Oh, so you can put in, you sign up to their premium alerts. I mean they also offer a free one, but you put it in San Francisco. And so whenever there's a deal from San Francisco, wherever it is, they'll let you know by email. And then they'll have you book it through like Google flights and which Google flights. Then we'll have you book it directly through the airline. And you wanna book through the airline because if there is a problem, you don't have to go through a third party. But ideally you wanna go through a travel agent that way, like, you know, being on hold for hours, like it's been going on and they don't have enough reservation agents good at travel agent will do that dirty
Leo Laporte (01:27:18):
Work. I love my travel agent, but I feel guilty sometimes using her for just like flights and hotels. Cause I feel like she probably doesn't make a lot of money. Ask her,
Johnny Jet (01:27:28):
Ask
Leo Laporte (01:27:28):
Her. I could ask her.
Johnny Jet (01:27:30):
I, I bet you, she would be appreciative of it. Yeah.
Leo Laporte (01:27:32):
It's like,
Johnny Jet (01:27:33):
Which shows you're a good customer.
Leo Laporte (01:27:34):
Right. Well see. And I know she probably makes a lot of money on a cruise, so we always go make
Johnny Jet (01:27:38):
Money on hotels. They make money on hotels. They don't, they don't make money on airlines,
Leo Laporte (01:27:42):
Not on airlines. So don't get,
Johnny Jet (01:27:44):
That's why they usually charge you a fee. They usually charge you 25 to $40 depending on the travel
Leo Laporte (01:27:49):
Agency. Oh, she's so nice. She doesn't charge us.
Johnny Jet (01:27:51):
Well, she should charge you.
Leo Laporte (01:27:53):
Yeah.
Johnny Jet (01:27:54):
Listen. Especially if shes thinking on the phone, she's doing it wrong,
Leo Laporte (01:27:58):
But I, these days I no longer book anything myself. I have to, I go through her because I just feel like it's safer to have that person. And she works in travel store. So there are other agents, if she's not around, there are other agents, like there's a number
Johnny Jet (01:28:13):
24 7 on call. Yeah. They're
Leo Laporte (01:28:15):
24 7. I like, I like that.
Johnny Jet (01:28:17):
And that's what you want. Yeah.
Leo Laporte (01:28:18):
Yeah. So
Johnny Jet (01:28:19):
Yeah. And online doesn't always have the answers. So that's why they say pick up the phone. If I'm booking a, a mileage ticket, I'm trying to get to, you know, Sarnia in Italy, you know, I'm just gonna say, Hey, can you get me business class to the mainland Europe, find me any city. You can't really do that online. Get, get me to Paris, get me to Rome. I'll find a, you know, a train, a ferry, however, or a low fair carrier on my own. Okay.
Leo Laporte (01:28:43):
Hey, what happened with the spirit? Did did they get bought? Did
Johnny Jet (01:28:46):
No. Well, so jet blue put a counter bid in which for 3.6 billion and they're
Leo Laporte (01:28:54):
You could buy 10% of Twitter for that. Wow.
Johnny Jet (01:28:57):
Well, because originally, you know, frontier and spirit were going to merge,
Leo Laporte (01:29:02):
Right?
Johnny Jet (01:29:03):
But now that's on hold because of jet blue jet Wood's really falling apart lately. They don't have enough. They, they have actually had to cut 10%, eight to 10% of their flights for the summer because they don't have enough staff.
Leo Laporte (01:29:14):
That's a problem everywhere. That's a, it is. That's another, another kettle of fish. Johnny jet.com is his website. All this stuff is there. His newsletters are free and great follow him on Twitter and Instagram. And of course every week right here. Thank you Johnny.
Johnny Jet (01:29:30):
Thank you.
Leo Laporte (01:29:39):
That's another fine Kelo fish. So good news. I'm looking in the Seattle round trip is 2 75. Oh,
Johnny Jet (01:29:48):
That's fine.
Leo Laporte (01:29:48):
Yeah. They're not gouging us yet. So the,
Johnny Jet (01:29:50):
The reason why is cuz there's so much competition and so many flights.
Leo Laporte (01:29:54):
Well, and this is from our Santa Rosa airport, which is nice. It's right up the it's close.
Johnny Jet (01:29:58):
It's Alaska.
Leo Laporte (01:29:59):
Alaska assume. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. But Alaska,
Johnny Jet (01:30:04):
So grab that right now.
Leo Laporte (01:30:06):
Snatch it, snatch it up.
Johnny Jet (01:30:08):
Yeah. Don't it's not gonna go down.
Leo Laporte (01:30:10):
Not gonna go down. Yeah. Okay.
Johnny Jet (01:30:14):
So seriously, he's pushing the button.
Leo Laporte (01:30:16):
I can't, I have to check with a little woman how many days she wants to,
Johnny Jet (01:30:20):
So you have 24 hours. Oh, to cancel it. So you buy it now and she says, no, then you cancel it within 24 hours. And it's that's, that's the rule by the D O T as long as it's seven days or later.
Leo Laporte (01:30:32):
So if we leave, this is interesting. If we left
Johnny Jet (01:30:34):
From the us,
Leo Laporte (01:30:35):
If we left at 12 noon, it's 4 65. If we leave at 4:49 PM, it's two, it's cheaper to, that's weird. You
Johnny Jet (01:30:46):
Would think it would be the other way
Leo Laporte (01:30:46):
Around. You would think. But I think we should leave then,
Johnny Jet (01:30:51):
But the problem with leaving in the, in the evening yeah. Is that there's a domino effect
Leo Laporte (01:30:56):
With, oh, to try and
Johnny Jet (01:30:58):
Take the early morning flight out. So yesterday my sister flew from west Palm beach to New York to go to a, a, a dinner party. Yeah. And I said, listen, they're having all kinds of problems in Florida. You gotta leave the first flight out. Yeah. She's like, I'm not getting up. I'm not taking a seven o'clock flight. Well guess what? That seven o'clock flight went on time. She won the 12 something that was delayed by two and a half hours. She, she showed up late to the party and I said, she, so listen and you gotta decide, do you want to get up early or do you want to and, and make, make your event and save money? It's usually cheaper early in the morning.
Leo Laporte (01:31:32):
Yeah. Wow. For 450 bucks more I can get free seat selection. How much? More? 450 bucks. More dear God. And two free check bags. Otherwise it's 60 bucks. That's that's first
Johnny Jet (01:31:44):
Call.
Leo Laporte (01:31:44):
Yeah. It's first class. Oh,
Johnny Jet (01:31:45):
Okay. Okay. Well those regional jets is not a
Leo Laporte (01:31:48):
Big difference. I know. What do you get? Em, bro. But
Johnny Jet (01:31:52):
If you're checking two bags
Leo Laporte (01:31:52):
Each well, that's the thing, the bags, it might make a difference if
Johnny Jet (01:31:56):
You're checking two bags. Yeah. It gives you a little bit more space.
Leo Laporte (01:31:58):
It's a cruise first check bag. 60 bucks.
Johnny Jet (01:32:03):
My recommendation on cruises is not to
Leo Laporte (01:32:05):
Not to bring too much.
Johnny Jet (01:32:06):
No. And you don't wanna leave your bags out.
Leo Laporte (01:32:08):
It might be where shorts
Johnny Jet (01:32:09):
Your cabin door.
Leo Laporte (01:32:10):
You don't. I always do that. No,
Johnny Jet (01:32:12):
I know. But
Leo Laporte (01:32:13):
They tell you to do that.
Johnny Jet (01:32:14):
I know they do, but that's so easy for a thief to grab stuff. Who's a thief you on a boat.
Leo Laporte (01:32:19):
What's
Johnny Jet (01:32:19):
Gonna be a, you'd be surprised. You'd be surprised. And you, and, and, and flying too. I see people, you know, falling asleep with their carryon above 'em with full of money and stuff. Those, those do get targeted, especially on long, long haul flights. When people are sleeping,
Leo Laporte (01:32:36):
I roll my money up and hold it between my legs is safe.
Johnny Jet (01:32:40):
Definitely. No I don't. No one's gonna touch that. I don't not even lay that shoe.
Leo Laporte (01:32:46):
You are a paranoid human being. That's all I can say. I put it in my shoe. That's the place to put your money, Johnny. Thank you. I hope I hope Olivia feels a little better.
Johnny Jet (01:32:56):
Yeah. She's she's feeling better today. Oh,
Leo Laporte (01:32:58):
Good. Okay, cool. And
Johnny Jet (01:33:00):
I didn't, I didn't even talk about what I wanted to talk about two websites, but I'll, I'll do them next week.
Leo Laporte (01:33:04):
Is that my fault?
Johnny Jet (01:33:05):
No, it it, did I blow it? Did I talk too much there? They're it's not anything time sensitive.
Leo Laporte (01:33:13):
Okay. Next week. We're gonna count on it and I won't say a word
Johnny Jet (01:33:17):
It's okay.
Leo Laporte (01:33:19):
All right. All right. Thank have a good one. Thank you so much.
Johnny Jet (01:33:21):
See you guys. Those are pillows.
Leo Laporte (01:33:26):
Did you request this as well? I did not,
Johnny Jet (01:33:28):
But I did say we should be funky today.
Leo Laporte (01:33:30):
We are funky. We are your funky techno twins. I'm Leo Laporte and
Johnny Jet (01:33:35):
I'm Mikah Sargent
Leo Laporte (01:33:35):
Sergeant. And we go back to the phones. Eighty eight eighty eight, ask Leo Alba on the line from Ello, California. Hello album.
Caller 6 (01:33:44):
Hey Leo, second time, caller longtime listener. Welcome
Leo Laporte (01:33:47):
Back. Good to have you.
Caller 6 (01:33:50):
Thank you. There's a push on this iPhone, total AV antivirus, which costs $3 all over the internet. That should get it today. You know? No,
Leo Laporte (01:34:00):
You should never get it ever, ever, ever.
Caller 6 (01:34:03):
I didn't think so.
Leo Laporte (01:34:04):
No. That's why, that's why they're pushing it. Yeah. By now you'll never get a deal this good, but you don't need an antivirus on the iPhone.
Caller 6 (01:34:14):
Today is the last day, you know, to get it.
Leo Laporte (01:34:15):
Yeah. Now mobile, the way mobile devices, the good news is mobile devices. Both Android and iOS were designed in a more modern era. The problem is older operating systems like windows, Mac were designed an era where they weren't so careful, frankly, about viruses. Now we know, right? The risks we're running and especially with a mobile device. So both mobile platforms are much, much more secure apple, especially. So the only way you could get a virus on an iOS device is if something got by apple in the app store that had malicious content in it. And that does happen from time to time. But the antivirus isn't gonna find it. If apple doesn't know about it, the antivirus. Sure. Doesn't the minute apple learns of it. They, they immediately fix it. They get gay, take it. They'll actually take it off your device. If they have to they'll stop it immediately. And these are, these are very rare incidents. There's no really other thing to worry about, unless you are a diplomat for a country or perhaps a spy we are a celebrity. Maybe they should take more precautions. It wouldn't be an antivirus. It would be other things they could do. But unless you're the target of an attack, you're fine. You're
Caller 6 (01:35:35):
Saying the reason I ask is a few years ago I got ransomware on my laptop, my HPS.
Leo Laporte (01:35:40):
Yeah.
Caller 6 (01:35:41):
Yeah. It was bad.
Leo Laporte (01:35:42):
It's terrible. And that's really bad. Yeah. That's a different matter because that again, that's windows. And it's course we know ransomware's a big problem. I don't generally use antivirus, but I have to say, and for years I've said, don't get a antivirus and windows comes with an antivirus. That's probably pretty good. But if you are doing risky things or worse, if you have a teenager using your computer, you know, or you're just not careful. An antivirus is just a little backstop, little help. It's often not gonna CA catch the worst stuff you that, for instance, that ransomware that you got, even if you were running an antivirus, you still have gotten it because these are mostly brand new infections. Nothing knows about, did you have an anti virus at the time?
Caller 6 (01:36:25):
No, I didn't. But since, since then I purchased, I asked. Yeah. And it's kind of working, you know, I'm not really sure if it's working. See,
Leo Laporte (01:36:34):
Here's the, here's my question. Would that have, would that have stopped that ransomware? Maybe if we were an old attack that it knew about, but a lot of way viruses spread these days, like wildfire, they're often what we call zero days. The attacks happen before anybody knows about them, which means the antivirus companies don't know about them, which means they're not protecting you. You know, they might protect you against some kinds of suspicious activity, but often a viruses fail. And really the real risk of having an antivirus is that you might say, oh, I'm, I'm safe. I'm I'm in vulnerable. Let me go out. I can do anything I want now. And never. Yeah. You know, now, you know,
Caller 6 (01:37:12):
Well, the, the Ratso got so bad that chase shut down my accounts. Yikes.
Leo Laporte (01:37:17):
Wow.
Caller 6 (01:37:17):
Yeah. And so I had to go into the bank, spent three hours, four hours changing every single account number and ATM card. And the only numbers that didn't change were my mortgage loan company, mortgage loan numbers. Those was the only numbers that didn't change. Everything else changed,
Leo Laporte (01:37:33):
But they did that to protect you. You understand? Because, oh, absolutely.
Caller 6 (01:37:36):
Yeah.
Leo Laporte (01:37:37):
Yeah. They were concerned. Your bank account could be drained.
Caller 6 (01:37:39):
That's how oh, bad.
Leo Laporte (01:37:41):
Yeah, it's terrible.
Caller 6 (01:37:42):
Then it was. And so I had to remember all these new credit card names and numbers. And
Leo Laporte (01:37:48):
Did they lock up your data as well? Did they, did they ask for money to unlock your data?
Caller 6 (01:37:54):
They did at one point, but they, they still left it open and I didn't respond. And by the next they just totally shut down my computer
Leo Laporte (01:38:02):
Jerks.
Caller 6 (01:38:03):
Yeah. Oh yeah.
Leo Laporte (01:38:03):
Jerky jerks.
Caller 6 (01:38:04):
And I had a lot of information on that computer and I just can't access it anymore. I even tried taking the hard drive out and connecting it to a device where I can look, see what's on the, the hard drive you can't even do that. Couldn't even do that. Yeah.
Leo Laporte (01:38:19):
Yeah.
Caller 6 (01:38:19):
So I was really bummed and really, really bummed.
Leo Laporte (01:38:22):
Well, now you have backup, right?
Leo Laporte (01:38:26):
Yeah. You better get some backup. You don't wanna do this again?
Caller 6 (01:38:30):
I gotta do that. I'm sorry. Yeah.
Leo Laporte (01:38:32):
Don't you have to apologize to me, But I'd probably be a good idea. That's if you had that backup at that point, you wouldn't have to worry about it, right?
Caller 6 (01:38:42):
Yeah. What's that one that you guys
Leo Laporte (01:38:45):
I drive for years as a sponsor. They're not currently, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't recommend them. They're good.
Caller 2 (01:38:49):
Right. I drive on it today. We'll get it today. Good
Leo Laporte (01:38:52):
Man. Good for you. And yeah. And don't get, save your 3 99, actually. That's about a year of eye drive, so you're good. Don't get, don't get anything on your iPhone. You don't need it.
Caller 6 (01:39:03):
I didn't think so. That's my call.
Leo Laporte (01:39:04):
Yeah. And of course that's why they do that, you know? Oh, you only have 3 99, but today only hurry up because if you thought about it or you had this sense to call and ask somebody, you'd say, no, I don't need dad. Do you? You don't run an antivirus on any of your stuff.
Mikah Sargent (01:39:19):
Do you? Oh, haven't snow. I will, I will say occasionally on my MacBook pro I will download, I can't think of what it's called now, but there's
Leo Laporte (01:39:28):
Good security software. There's Lulu, which is free from objective C S E E. We'll put a link in the show notes that marches outbound traffic to see if something's gotten on your system. That's calling home cuz most that's how ransom work wear works. That's how a lot of malware works. They the same guy, Patrick Wardle. Who's a great Mac programmer and does a lot of good out of the goodness of his own heart. He asks for donations, but everything's free is knock, knock. He, it's a thing called knock knock. And I, I think that's a wonderful tool because it tells you, you can't always see everything that's loading. When you turn on a computer. Now, unfortunately knock, knock is Mac only, but it will tell you and show you all the things that load, when you turn on your computer, some of those may be things you don't want.
Mikah Sargent (01:40:15):
Yep. It's very handy. I just did a that's basically what I do is every once in a while, I'll go through and do kind of a, a look through things and I was running knock, knock, and saw some things that they weren't bad. They weren't nefarious. Yeah.
Leo Laporte (01:40:26):
But you wanna know about it.
Mikah Sargent (01:40:27):
I didn't know that this login item was installed.
Leo Laporte (01:40:29):
What are, what are you loading?
Mikah Sargent (01:40:30):
Yeah. What are you thinking about?
Leo Laporte (01:40:32):
And Microsoft offers something similar for windows users. It's from their CIS internals collection of software. This is Markovich who is in charge of Azure now, but he was a very prolific programmer and wrote a lot of wonderful tools for windows. He's actually a novelist too. He writes spy novels, but mark has a program called process Explorer and process monitor, which is a sister program that will tell you what's running. And, and what it's up to. And so very similar the, all of the utilities from Microsoft's CIS internals group are great. So you can, you can look at all of those and they're all free as well. That's CIS internals, microsoft.com. He's been doing that since 1996. There's people like OV and Patrick Wardle, who I think really, you know, you and I care about people and we do best. We can to help him and, and explain lane stuff to them. But these guys actually put their exactly coding. Prowes where their mouth is. And they go out and write tools that are fantastic. Fantastic.
Mikah Sargent (01:41:42):
We, we recommend their tools.
Leo Laporte (01:41:44):
Yeah. That's our job. Yeah, we can't write 'em but we can recommend 'em. Thank you. Patrick and mark. You guys you guys do great stuff. Eighty eight eighty eight. Ask CLEs the phone number next hour. Dick D Bartolo stops by. I just got my copy. Did
Mikah Sargent (01:41:57):
You get your copy? I
Leo Laporte (01:41:58):
Did get my autograph copy of the next mad magazine with the rock. I don't know why the Rock's on it, but he's on the cover and we'll talk to Dick D Bartolo, find out how you can get an autograph copy of mag magazine and find out what his gizmo or gadget of the week is. I still have the little Atari game machine that you thank. Thank you. Went to target to get for me. Oh,
Mikah Sargent (01:42:23):
You're
Leo Laporte (01:42:23):
So welcome. Is that where you got it? Target.
Mikah Sargent (01:42:24):
Target. I placed an order while we were doing the show and it was ready for pick up a little later that day. So cute.
Leo Laporte (01:42:29):
Eighty eight, eighty eight, ask Leo the phone number website. We we've been mentioning a couple of things, including CI internals will put links at the website tech guy labs.com. That's kind of a new website. We've moved over there. It's the podcast site, but links go up there. A transcript of the show with time codes, audio and video. All of that'll be there. Leo Laporte the tech guy. Yeah. Steve Gibson says he sends stuff sometimes now to virus total. So you, before you install software, you send it to virus total. It looks the connections that the software makes and you'll know ahead of time. Interesting. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Steve says he is been doing that. I'm not sure how complete virus total is, but it's certainly all of these things are kind of like, oh yeah, I see. Better than nothing. Virus totals, a website created by the Spanish company. Virus total. No, I don't know what their name is. He's he's EK. He's Demus Google now. Owns it. Wait a minute. Nope. Google owned it briefly. And then it now Chronicle, which is a subsidiary of Google owns it. So it's Google E Google. Google
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Leo Laporte (01:44:08):
And you can choose a file, submit it and will analyze it. That's probably the best least intrusive way to kind of, yeah. Before you install before you install it. I wonder if though it accepts Non windows stuff.
Mikah Sargent (01:44:27):
Oh, there's even an API. So
Leo Laporte (01:44:29):
Yeah. Look at that. You can use your Python skills. Let me upload my This'll be interesting.
Mikah Sargent (01:44:36):
Oh, your shot clock.
Leo Laporte (01:44:37):
My shot class shot clock. Yeah. Computing hash confirm upload. Doesn't never saw this before. Of course not. I wrote it. Let's see what it does. Detection in queuing file for analysis. It's giving me a hash Sitting up analysis environment. Oh, it runs it through a bunch of antiviruses. I see what it's doing a Cronus. Antley a vast Vera bit D you know, this kind of cool that isn't neat. So look at this, it's scanning it through hundreds and you know what? Clean is a whistle
Mikah Sargent (01:45:17):
As we had hoped
Leo Laporte (01:45:18):
No security vendors and no sandboxes flag, this FA so it's dependent on, That's interesting. It's dependent on These antivirus companies, but by the way, that was a, that's a Linux app. And it, it detected that and And scanned it. So, but depending on all these companies having that Alibaba, CrowdStrike, Falcon, Lance secure age Teris and trust look could not do anything with it. I probably, they don't do that kind of file, but a surprisingly number, large number. That's good. That's good. I like you virus total. I can get a free public API key. That'd be an interesting program to write just automatically check it before it
Mikah Sargent (01:46:11):
Yeah. Anytime it would be nice. Every time you, you download,
Leo Laporte (01:46:14):
It goes in the download folder. Yeah. Easy thing to do is on a Mac ha write a little action script that monitors, you could do this in your Python. I want you
Mikah Sargent (01:46:23):
To do this. Do Hazel. Hazel would do it to watch the file and then write the Python that actually talks to the API.
Leo Laporte (01:46:31):
You
Leo Laporte (01:46:31):
Don't really need Hazel cuz this built into the OS to watch it. There's a fold watch
Mikah Sargent (01:46:37):
Like a watch. Oh,
Leo Laporte (01:46:38):
Okay. Yeah. But Hazel makes it a lot easier. Yeah. That's a good idea.
Leo Laporte (01:46:46):
There's your assignment. And actually the real value of the assignment is learning how to handle APIs, which is hard. Very hard. Well can be very hard depending on the API. Like if you were using, if you wanted to understand the TWiT API, you'd have to be able to parse JSON and all sorts of it's hard to do that then parse Patrick. Yeah. pars pack. No, he didn't write it. Oh it's re it's a rest API uses JSON for requests and responses. Yeah. So you have to be able to read and write JSON, but there are libraries in Python will do that. It's a little tricky. Might be a little above your pay grade yet. Yeah. But it's still a little early it, but I can you getting there? I can play around. You're getting there. Python. Thought's incredibly powerful.
Leo Laporte (01:47:38):
Well, Hey, Hey. Hey. How are you today? Leo Laport here, the tech guy, time to talk. Oh, whiz and Mica Sergeant tech guy too. Sorry for a habit. Time to talk computers, the internet home theater, digital photography, smartphone smart watches. I'm blessed to have Michael with me on Saturdays. It's nice story that we will be watching with interest. We don't know the details yet. Human researchers, a university of west Madison were trying to figure out how much audio is captured by video conferencing applications. Now they, they say that they found so they tested, they used runtime binary analysis tools, which kind of what we were just talking about with virus total to trace raw audio and popular video conferencing applications as the audio traveled from the app to the computer audio driver and then in the network while the app while, and this is important while the app was muted, you have the mute button pressed on, you know, your Hangouts or your meeting or your zoom or whatever.
Leo Laporte (01:48:52):
They found that of all that, all of the apps they tested occasionally gather raw audio data while mute is activated. While mute is activated one popular app gathered information and delivered data to its servers at the same rate, regardless of whether the microphone is muted or not. Now they won't say the name. The paper has been accepted at the 2022 privacy enhancing technology symposium. So that'll be published next month. So at that point, we'll know, I'm gonna guess at zoom has already heard problems that zoom had along these lines. And I don't necessarily think they're intentionally spying on you. It's really how the software was written. Right? Right. So the mute function doesn't change how the, and I can understand why you might write it this way. It doesn't change how the program's working. It just means that the other recipients don't hear you talking. And really, if you think about it that kind of makes sense. You don't wanna suddenly start and stop the stream of, of audio. If you want that mute button to work quickly, you, you just say, especially silence it, those
Mikah Sargent (01:49:59):
Video, those applications are doing processing on the audio. So you don't want that to yeah. Cut out
Leo Laporte (01:50:04):
There. Exactly. So I, I wouldn't jump to the conclusion. You'll see this story and I'm sure when the paper comes out you'll see this story and people will go, go crazy hair on fire doesn't mean even, you know, it could, but it doesn't mean that. I honestly think if you think about it, the number of zoom calls or Hangouts calls or Google meet calls or blue Jean calls that are going on at any given time, thousands, hundreds of thousands, nobody's, ain't nobody got time to listen to all those calls and what would they be listening for anyway, maybe you say, well, they probably send those to the government, which then scans them for keywords and then that's possible, I guess that's possible. But I, I, I don't think it's caused for concern at this point. It's kind of, I kind of understand how that it's good to know.
Leo Laporte (01:50:56):
It's good to know. Yeah. Yeah. you know, the, if you're concerned about this, the best way to do this is to have a mute button on your microphone or on your computer that actually mutes not use the mute button on the teleconferencing software, but actually use the sound control panel or a system preference. Or maybe in fact, I have all my microphones have on off switches. Yep. Turn off the mic. There's nothing that's gonna be sent. I mean, your video's still being sent. I'm not gonna worry about it too much. 88, 88 ask the other thing we were talking about after our last call, he was he was worried about whether he should buy an antivirus for his iPhone. And somebody in the chat were mentioned. I use virus total. This is a Google site. So it's say virus, total.com. Our security guy, Steve Gibson.
Leo Laporte (01:51:45):
He does the security now podcast with me. He says, he uses this from time is time. You can upload any file, including a file. You're about to install a program. You're about to install anything like that. You can upload it to virus total, and within a minute it will scan it and tell you if it's dangerous. It runs it through several dozen well known antivirus programs and says, sees if anybody of flags it as problematic. So maybe better than running an antivirus all the time, which is always scanning, slowing your system down, using up system resources, possibly potentially even opening security holes in your system. This has happened just uploading this to virus total doesn't doesn't, you know, use any of your system resources. It's just a way of scanning something before you install it. I like this idea. It is not for mobile, although Jeep boy, that'd be neat. I should see if they have a app. But it is, it is available for computers at virus, total.com and it's free. It's a Google service. So thank you, chatroom. I'm glad we could mention that back to the phones. Eighty eight eighty eight. Ask Leo, Dave on the line from Chino, California. Hi Dave.
Caller 7 (01:52:56):
Hey Leo, how are you? I'm well,
Leo Laporte (01:52:59):
How are you? Say say hi to Mikahs Sergeant.
Mikah Sargent (01:53:02):
Hello, Dave.
Caller 7 (01:53:03):
Hey Mikah, how are you?
Mikah Sargent (01:53:03):
I'm doing all right. Thank you. What
Leo Laporte (01:53:05):
Can we, what can we as a team do for you?
Caller 7 (01:53:08):
Yeah, so I have sort of an internet speed problem or performance problem. So I've got frontier files at my house. Nice. Got an amplify mesh network.
Leo Laporte (01:53:20):
Very nice jealous, okay. To the house.
Caller 7 (01:53:23):
Yep. And what I get is whether I'm wor and it doesn't matter what device, whether it's my PC, my MacBook, my iPhone doesn't matter. The device, the internet performance will be going super fast and nice, and then just sort of drop off and be nothing E and at that, at that exact moment, I will do a speed test, whether it's through amplify or just a speed test app. And it says, my speeds are fine. I'm up in the, the 200 range. And, but just, no, the, just the internet won't load pages, won't load.
Leo Laporte (01:53:57):
Ah, okay.
Caller 7 (01:53:59):
Eventually it'll come back.
Leo Laporte (01:54:01):
So this is a, what we call, I think my diagnosis, my careful, carefully listening to your problem. I diagnosed this as a DNS issue. You think so?
Mikah Sargent (01:54:11):
Yep. Same thing. Yeah. That's exactly what I was gonna say.
Leo Laporte (01:54:13):
So your connectivity isn't dwindling, but for some reason, the ability to, before you go to any site, you have to look that site up in the global internet phone book, using the name system DNS. And that goes through a server. So some sites will be cashed on your computer locally for a brief period of time. But generally, if it's a site you're going to yahoo.com, let's say what happens is the browser then queries the operating system, where is yahoo.com, which then goes out and queries your router. The router says, I don't know, goes out and queries your internet service provider, where is yahoo.com? And if the internet service provider doesn't know, usually they do because they Cachefly Also other people's look up. So any site you've gone to that others are going to, you'll probably get direct from the internet service provider, but even if, if they can't do it, it goes on up at the chain.
Leo Laporte (01:55:08):
There are 13 name servers that are run by I a, the internet corporation for assigned names and numbers. These are the global servers. It's the big phone book in the sky. That process, if it fails, you're gonna have connectivity. In fact, one way to test it is to write down, well, actually you don't even have to write anything down. I'll give you something you can do. What's called a ping command. You can do it from the command line ping space, 8, 8, 8, 8 that's Verizon's DNS servers. Now you're pinging a number, not a name. So there's no DNS lookup involved. So that should come through at full speed. But if you're, if then you say ping yahoo.com and it doesn't, then we know it's a DNS problem. How do you solve this? Well, your DNS is coming from your internet service provider. You said frontier. Yes. I wonder if they're having trouble with their DNS provider eight, sorry, eight quads, not Verizon. It's Google four dot 4, 4, 4 is Verizon. So it's Google. So you can change your DNS service. You don't have to use your internet service providers. So if Frontier's having, you could call them and say, are you having problems with your DNS server? Cuz it's going up and down. It
Caller 7 (01:56:30):
Definitely starts within the last couple weeks. It's it's been fine for the longest time, but it it's now it's constant.
Leo Laporte (01:56:37):
Yeah. So amplify actually has an article. Thank you, Michael Sergeant on how to change that DNS address, you can continue if you don't put one in and by the way, you could put it in on any computer and the network settings, the computer will let you do that, but you but easiest to do it at the router. If you don't put one in, in your amplify and the router, it will just use frontiers. But you can say, no, I don't want to. In fact, I don't use my internet service provide
Mikah Sargent (01:57:05):
These CloudFlare for
Leo Laporte (01:57:05):
Years. Cloudflare's 1, 1, 1, 1. So you just put that in. In fact, if you go to one, do 1.1 0.1 and CloudFlare will give you instructions. Amplify probably talks about that. They have actually not only 1.1 0.1 0.1, but they have others. I think 2, 1, 1, 1, 2, and they have a few things that do different things. I also use, and actually I recommend this to everybody. It's not free. It's free for the first 300,000 requests a month. It's called next DNS. And it goes the next step beyond just looking up stuff, it will block stuff. That's malicious. It helps you. If you have kids block them from going to sites, you don't want them to go to it also has ad blockers built in. If you want to use those, it's a really clever service and it's inexpensive. I pay about a buck a month because I use more. I use it for everything, but you can find out about that in next dna.io. So there are plenty of other, in other words, plenty of other DNS servers you can use besides
Mikah Sargent (01:58:14):
I used to have this, this problem all the time on my internet service provider. And then when I did the DNS change, I've never looked back after, after making this change.
Leo Laporte (01:58:23):
Cloudflare's very good. They have fast servers. And so for my friend, Steve, we just mentioned Steve Gibson. Our security guy has actually a DNS benchmark that he's written for windows. If you're on windows where you can, it has a bunch of DNS servers. You can enter in more if you want. And he'll tell you who the fastest is, but that's not always the best you might the most reliable as well, fast and reliable. And clearly frontier is letting you down. This is now a guess, but based on the symptoms you described, I think that's, what's going on the way to test that is that weird ping thing. You don't have to do that. Just try somebody else's DNS.
Caller 7 (01:58:59):
And you're saying the best will way to do that would be to, to change that setting through amplify.
Leo Laporte (01:59:04):
Yeah. Put it on the amplify because then it's the whole house.
Mikah Sargent (01:59:07):
We'll have links in the show notes tech eye labs.com that leads you directly to that amplify page where you change your network's DNS address. I've also got links to how to use CloudFlare to do that, and then also links to next to DNS. So you'll have all the information you need at tech. I labs.com.
Caller 7 (01:59:25):
All right. You, you guys are incredible. Thanks
Leo Laporte (01:59:26):
So much. Hey, I hope it helps. It could be something else completely, you know, but I that's,
Mikah Sargent (01:59:31):
We both went to that same place. It
Leo Laporte (01:59:33):
Sounds though it, and you had that problem. Yeah. I remember that. 88 88 ask Leo that's the number now is a good time to talk to the tech two, get get double your pleasure. Double your fun. 8 8 8 8 2 7 5 5 3 6 more calls right after this.
Professor Laura (01:59:53):
Please do not say double the pleasure.
Leo Laporte (01:59:57):
You know, when you go out, used to be, you'd go out to candlestick park, which was freezing cold. It was where the giants used to play. And there was a guy, you know how at the ballgame, they have those crappy malts that, and they give you a wooden spoon that gives you spliners you eat outta the malt. It's terrible. But the guy's going around. It's freezing cold. He's selling these malts and his line was don't deny. Yes. The pleasure MOTS here. MOTS here. Don't deny yourself the pleasure. It probably worked cuz it was so ridiculous. I certainly remember it. That's a, you don't remember the double twins obviously
Mikah Sargent (02:00:40):
W your pleasure with Doman
Leo Laporte (02:00:44):
Doman Doman gum. It was a little creepy, actually come to think of it.
Mikah Sargent (02:00:49):
Chewing
Mikah Sargent (02:00:50):
Gum can be fun. I guess
Leo Laporte (02:00:52):
You'd never heard. Double your pleasure, double your fun God. Now I realize why you thought it was so creepy listeners of this program. An ad free version. If they're members of club TWiT $7 a month gives you ad free versions of all of our shows plus membership in the club, TWiT discord, a great clubhouse for TWiT listeners, and finally the TWiT plus feed with shows like Stacy's book club, the untitled Lenox show, the GIZ fizz, and more go to TWiT the TV slash club TWiT. And thanks for your support, Leo Laporte. How do you like your tech guys over easy, right? 88, 88 as ask Leo we don't have 88 88 ask Mikah Sargent yet. I'll work on it.
Mikah Sargent (02:01:40):
Maybe too many letters.
Leo Laporte (02:01:41):
Turning letters. Yeah. let's go to line one. Jeff, on the line from Henderson, Nevada. Hello, Jeff.
Caller 8 (02:01:49):
Hi Leo. Good afternoon. I got an email from a website development company. That's probably based in India, but on their website, they have a California address and they seem like a reputable company from Googling them. I paid a normal price. It wasn't so discounted that it gave me caused for concern. The URL is my first and last name. So my first name, last name.com. Yeah, they want, they want my register.com login and pass. No. Oh, Thank you. That's Why I called even
Leo Laporte (02:02:23):
If they are legit, which you probably are a lot, by the way, a lot of these day software services are provided by companies outside the us because the contractors are less expensive, but Indian, Indian programmers are very well trained, very competent, nothing wrong with that. This is pretty much a standard practice among all web design firms. They kind of want to control the DNS. The worst thing is you can let, is to let them register it so that it's under their account. Cuz then they own it and you know it's happened. They, they can hold you hostage. You can't move. Like you don't want to use this anymore. Well, too bad. We got your name. You own this domain registration though. It's on your account, right?
Caller 8 (02:03:08):
Yes sir. Yeah.
Leo Laporte (02:03:10):
So what they want the register.com login for is to set the DNS. Now how comfortable are you managing DNS settings?
Caller 8 (02:03:19):
Zero.
Leo Laporte (02:03:19):
Yeah.
Mikah Sargent (02:03:21):
That's maybe why asking
Leo Laporte (02:03:23):
For it's. So if you trust them, I mean, there is risk, of course, what you could do is is first of all, I check with register.com to see if they have a way of giving them access without giving them the account. They may well, they should, if they don't then obvious change the password after they're done. But there, there is a one time, go ahead.
Caller 8 (02:03:48):
I was afraid they had cyber squat once they got the password. Oh they could. And then without the password, I can't do anything with the site.
Leo Laporte (02:03:54):
Yeah, they could, but, but they need to change that DNS setting. They need to do that@register.com. They need to log in. So, so you could, you could say, well, give me the step by step instructions. I can do it. I would call, register.com and tell them and say, do you have a way that I can have a third party get access to these settings without losing control of the account. That would be the best thing to do.
Caller 8 (02:04:18):
Okay. Well living in Las Vegas and Nevada, I'm a bit of a gambler. So Call, register.com or email them. And
Leo Laporte (02:04:25):
It's probably fine from there. It's probably fine. Okay. Yeah. The, the reason I went no is exactly the reason why you and your brain went. No, because yeah, if they have access to your account, they can log in there. You so they can do anything they want at that point. So you don't want them to do that. But at the same time, I understand why they need to, right. They need to change some settings and it's technical. It's fairly technical. It's easy by the way to screw up as well. So I would, I would, I would let them do it and change it back. We'll find out if there's a way to let a contractor get into your account. This is a very common thing. So I bet there is Karen San Pedro, California, Leo. Leport the tech guy with Mike Sergeant.
Caller 9 (02:05:08):
Hello? Hello. Thank you, Mikah Sargent. Thank you Leah, for taking my call.
Leo Laporte (02:05:13):
What can we do for you
Caller 9 (02:05:15):
About a week ago on my cell phone, got a message saying when I tried to access my email said you can't access it until you prove your identity. Please put in your email and password. Okay. So I put in my email address, put in my password, it thought a bit, went back again, put in your email and password over and over and over. You're doing the same thing. It would not let me access. So after about 15, 20 minutes of doing this, I thought, okay, I'm gonna call technical support, which was from at and T am I allowed to say that? Yeah.
Leo Laporte (02:05:57):
Say it. And, and, and it's Yahoo mail. Who's doing the mail
Caller 9 (02:06:01):
Yahoo mail, Yahoo mail at and T. Yeah. So I was on the phone for an hour with a young lady from at and T and she had me change my password and going through a lot of steps and took me to another site. And this site has had audit that I had to authorize allowing Yahoo to access email and a couple other things, which was fine. But it also was asking me to authorize something called ID and O O
Leo Laporte (02:06:34):
Yeah. So this is id.me. And this is a way of proving you. You are who you say you are.
Caller 9 (02:06:41):
Well, when I read the fine print for oh, off, it had a lot of interesting it's information about
Leo Laporte (02:06:49):
It's scary, but it's okay. Hang on. We gotta take a break. I'll we'll talk to you off the air. Leo Laport, Mikah Sargent Sergeant, the tech guys. It is scary. I understand. But it's fine. Oauth is a yeah. Well, it's complicated. So first thing before you do all of this the problem is not that there's something wrong with, well, it could be, it could be that the password is wrong. We've had a lot of people call with ATT Yahoo mail problem slightly. So I think there's something wrong with there systems. One thing to try is rebooting the phone. Just, you know, make sure it shuts all the way down. Is it a iPhone?
Caller 9 (02:07:30):
No, it's a Samsung Samsung.
Leo Laporte (02:07:32):
So every phone has a little different procedure, but I think if you press and hold the screen on often button, it'll give you a chance to restart the phone. Yeah. Do that. And then see if it'll stick. Cuz sometimes what's happening is it's not that the password's wrong. It's that it's not REM it's not saving it properly. It's not remembering it. So rebooting sometimes fixes that. That's the first thing to try. Anyway. if the password has been changed, see the problem is this person you got at Yahoo, no guarantee that she's the expert here. She's she's working out of a notebook.
Caller 9 (02:08:06):
Right? Right. She
Leo Laporte (02:08:07):
Says, well, the first thing you should do is let me read this. And she doesn't know. So she's reasonably thinking that the password's been changed. I don't know if that's the case. You didn't change it. Right.
Caller 9 (02:08:19):
I did change it because when I was on the Merry go round, that was the first thing that she said to do. Well, change your password And then it, and
Leo Laporte (02:08:27):
It didn't fix it,
Caller 9 (02:08:29):
Which it had the O oh,
Leo Laporte (02:08:30):
That's where you get to all of this. Okay. Right. Oauth is fine. It's a way of, of making your login secure.
Caller 9 (02:08:41):
Even though it says that I have they're giving access to third party third party on it.
Leo Laporte (02:08:47):
Yeah. Because, oh, so they are the third party in this case is at and T so it's fine.
Caller 9 (02:08:57):
Oh, okay. Because it said that, that, yeah.
Leo Laporte (02:08:59):
They have to say that because it's true, but it's not selling your information to marketers. It's it's how oth works. Yeah. It's how oth works. Oof. Is a third party that is verifying your information and then sending a token T and T saying, yep. That's her. And in order to do that, that's three parties. So awath is the first party at and T is the third party. And that's why they say that they have to say that because otherwise it, you know, they wouldn't be revealing the truth, but that's fine. Awath is safe. Okay.
Caller 9 (02:09:34):
Because it would not let me access it. And now also attacked my tablet. I can't access my email or my tablet and I'm afraid it's gonna access my computer.
Leo Laporte (02:09:46):
Well, what's gonna happen is from now on each time you use the mail, the first time on those devices, you're gonna have to go through this process, but it's a more secure process. And after that, you won't have to enter the password again.
Caller 9 (02:10:04):
Okay. So I should allow access because it either, either said deny or allow. Yeah. If you said, deny they cut you off. Yeah.
Leo Laporte (02:10:11):
Nothing will happen. It won't get fixed. Right? Yeah. Yeah. So I, I think that's the first thing to try is, is O oof is a legitimate thing I use. Oof. Everybody, we it's fine. It's not a, it's a technology, not a person. And at, and T does in fact use this with their email. So that's fine too.
Caller 9 (02:10:37):
You know? Cause that was the first time I'd ever seen anything. She didn't explain it. She just said, you must, you must allow it. That's all there is. You have to allow it. She didn't explain,
Leo Laporte (02:10:45):
Well, the whole thing's up in the air because I don't even know who owns Yahoo anymore. It ain't at and T or Verizon, it's a new company. And so I think they're changing systems and say, I think that's probably what's happening. It's first thing to reboot your phone, try the password. See if it works. Oof is fine.
Caller 9 (02:11:03):
Okay. Thank you so much. You're welcome. Okay. Have a great day. Thank you, Mike. You
Leo Laporte (02:11:06):
Too. Bye bye.
Mikah Sargent (02:11:08):
Yeah, I'm reading about oof. It was December of 2019 that they
Leo Laporte (02:11:11):
Did this. Yeah. It's a better way to do it. Eighty eight eighty eight. Ask Leo the phone number. I'm Leo Laporte
Mikah Sargent (02:11:19):
And I'm Mica Sergeant tech guy two
Leo Laporte (02:11:21):
There's one. And there's two he's. I could be like thing one. And you could be, think two. How about that? We'll
Mikah Sargent (02:11:28):
Get matching sense.
Leo Laporte (02:11:29):
Kelvin's on the line from San Diego. Hello, Kel.
Caller 10 (02:11:33):
Hey guys. How you guys doing? Doing
Leo Laporte (02:11:35):
Well I'm well, how are you?
Caller 10 (02:11:37):
Good. Doing great. The best day of my life yesterday gone. Tomorrow's not here. We're still here today.
Leo Laporte (02:11:43):
Yay boy. I wish I had that philosophy. Yeah. Let's clip let's snap. Our fingers snaps for Kelvin. Love it. Love it.
Caller 10 (02:11:51):
So so I'm calling because I have a situation that so I'm getting a lot of presentation gigs. Yeah. From my pottery studio. And so they want me to do virtual presentations and nice because of my Def because of my deaf blindness. I need to be able to have a system virtually. And so I, I need to good audio.
Leo Laporte (02:12:16):
You're getting by now. Kelvin, you've got, you've got a, you've got a, you know, radio station in your pottery studio. You've really got it all set up. You got it going. I,
Caller 10 (02:12:27):
I do. And
Leo Laporte (02:12:28):
Kel, by the way, we should mention, we've talked to him before is a deaf blind Potter does tos, right. And you too
Caller 10 (02:12:36):
Tiktok YouTubes. And you can go to death, blind pod.com. If you want, I mean, I, I haven't made a lot lately, so my pickings are slim and mother's day pieces are, I got like four or five more mother's day bowls. So if you want some,
Leo Laporte (02:12:52):
Oh, they're beautiful. I'm looking at some of these vs that you make boy, are they beautiful? You know what, instead of the junky vase I get from the florist, I'm gonna get one of your vs and put some nice flowers in it and then that'll be Aase to keep, these are beautiful. Beautiful. So they, so they want you to stream like a, as a presentation as a, as a, as a talk, a keen to out.
Caller 10 (02:13:17):
Yeah. So I've been doing a lot of presentations from the pond wheel, so I'll throw live a piece. Oh, that's neat. And tell my story.
Leo Laporte (02:13:25):
Oh, that's so great.
Caller 10 (02:13:27):
Talking about my suicide issues back in the day.
Leo Laporte (02:13:30):
Oh, I'm sorry.
Caller 10 (02:13:31):
My overcoming those pains and suffering that I've done in the past.
Leo Laporte (02:13:35):
So when you hear Kelvin say that philosophy now, you know, that's a real deal. That's awesome. That's so great. Thank
Caller 10 (02:13:42):
You. And so so what I do right now is I have to call and call in the zoom on one phone. Yeah. And that's what gets the audio. So I use my NTG to get my audio in. So it's good quality, Mike. And then I have to call in with my iPhone. So that way
Leo Laporte (02:14:03):
For the camera and
Caller 10 (02:14:04):
Here for no, no phone. So I use my pixel for the camera and the audio, and then I need, and then I didn't call in to get the audio to my hearing aids so that I can hear the people talking.
Leo Laporte (02:14:17):
Oh, so you can hear yeah. Got it. Okay.
Caller 10 (02:14:20):
Yes, but I need virtual assistance from a company called IRA. They're out of San Diego. So they provide assistance virtually for the Villa parent so they can read the comments on the, the section and they can tell me all that information.
Leo Laporte (02:14:33):
Oh, that's so cool.
Caller 10 (02:14:34):
And so, so I wear my headset. So it's that website by the way is a, I R a IO.
Leo Laporte (02:14:42):
Yes. I've heard of them before. Yeah. Yeah.
Caller 10 (02:14:45):
And so then I put my headset on so I can hear them. And so I'm, so I just so many things going on to be able to get good audio and be able to hear what's going on. So I'm trying to simplify it cause I could do my mixer, but again, I'm still wired in. Yeah. And so I'm trying to find a boo who headset that get really good audio
Leo Laporte (02:15:09):
Bluetooth. So,
Caller 10 (02:15:12):
And then trying to get,
Leo Laporte (02:15:14):
But it would need to hear two different sources, wouldn't it?
Caller 10 (02:15:17):
No, no. We just need one source. Okay. I can still use my hearing aids for IRA.
Leo Laporte (02:15:21):
Oh. So you'd wear the Bluetooth headset in one ear and your hearing aids in both ears.
Caller 10 (02:15:27):
Yeah. Well it's like kind of like the headset, like over the ear headset.
Leo Laporte (02:15:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you can hear hearing can still be in. Okay.
Caller 10 (02:15:35):
Yeah. Yeah. So I can hear the IRA agents and then I can then have the headset on to be able to communicate with the audience.
Leo Laporte (02:15:43):
Wow. and you wanna make this simplify it?
Caller 10 (02:15:50):
Yeah. I just wanna make it, this, my hearing aids and my headset and I have to have a third device, like my phone having to call in to hear the audio. Cause you have that audio delay. Yeah. so, so you have you're here.
Leo Laporte (02:16:04):
Well, you got me Kel. I don't know. How could we make this holy cow. I mean, it's kind of a rub Goldberg machine, but it works right. What it works in what way does it not work for you right now?
Caller 10 (02:16:18):
So it's the having to, so right now I have to call IRA through my computer. Yeah. So I want to eliminate the computer. So if I'm calling in zoom, could I get a headset and I have a good mic.
Leo Laporte (02:16:31):
So there is a way to do this. It's a little complicated. You need a Mac. If you, if you had a Mac and you went to, there's a software, a company called rogue ameba R O G U E EMBA, a M O E B a software. And they make a, a tool that will do exactly what you want. It's called audio hijack. And what it allows you to do is in software, take multiple inputs, audio inputs, and multiple audio outputs. And what it would do is eventually meld these different audio sources into one that you then put on your headphones and your headset, and it would take your audio and send it back appropriately. You're kind of writing a routing table, like a rail rate railway station where you're saying, okay, when this audio comes in, here you go there. And this, and it's a really, the reason I say Mac is, I don't know of any analog solution on windows that will do this, but they have got it down for audio in the Mac. So maybe at least go to audio, to rogue, gamba.com and look at audio hijack to see what I'm talking about and see if this will work. Do you have somebody like an engineer who's helping you?
Caller 10 (02:17:57):
So I just talked to somebody yesterday. We were talking about getting like the B airplane headphones. Yeah. The microphone that comes.
Leo Laporte (02:18:05):
I wanna, I think we, what we wanna do is simplify the workflow and then worry about what hardware, well, like what headphones and all that. Yeah. So let's simplify it so that we can get the real problem is you have multiple audio inputs and in a way, multiple audio outputs. Right. Do you ever talk to IRA or no?
Caller 10 (02:18:25):
Yeah. So that, that would come from my phone. Yeah. That's
Leo Laporte (02:18:28):
Why we just, no, I know. That's why we're trying to get this all in a 1, 1, 1 box. Right. And then that's just the audio. It doesn't handle the video, but the video I think is fine, cuz you really, you, you could send that separately or you could write it through the Mac. I mean, audio hijack will work with something like OBS studio to send videos out and we'll mix that into the OBS studio video. So I think there's a way to get this all together, but it's complicated. I've I think I've told you before Kelvin about my friend, Alex Lindsay and office hours.
Caller 10 (02:19:07):
Yes. Yep.
Leo Laporte (02:19:09):
This is the kind of thing they would love to sink their teeth into. Maybe you could find somebody in the San Diego area who would come over and help you, cuz this is gonna be hard to do if you, if you're blinded, cuz it's co it's very visual. It's complicated. But once it's set up, it's
Caller 10 (02:19:24):
A Mac though.
Leo Laporte (02:19:25):
Well maybe you can find somebody to lend you a Mac on this as well. Yeah. I don't, otherwise it's very complicated because you got all these different things, doing different things and I'm also worried about lag. Do you notice a lag sometimes causing problems?
Caller 10 (02:19:44):
N no, because the way right now I do everything from the pixel phone.
Leo Laporte (02:19:51):
Yeah. So the pixel's the master.
Caller 10 (02:19:54):
Yeah. So it runs the zoom.
Leo Laporte (02:19:55):
Do you have a computer at all or no, just mobile.
Caller 10 (02:19:58):
Yeah. I have my piece I have a surface pro.
Leo Laporte (02:20:03):
Okay. Let me look for something. That's similar to audio hijack on windows, cuz they, that might be, that might be a better way to do it with at least you don't have to buy a new computer. Leo Laporte the tech guy. It is complicated. It is very complicated. It's complicated. I don't know if we can really help you Kelvin. Cuz it's so complicated. I don't even know if I understand how it works, but I love,
Caller 10 (02:20:29):
Well, my strategy was if I could get a Bluetooth headset that would have a microphone and connect it Bluetooth to the pixel, then the people would be able to hear me and everything. And then since I already have to use call IRA, I can call IRA on my phone and use my hearing aids. I guess
Leo Laporte (02:20:46):
That'll all work. Yeah.
Mikah Sargent (02:20:47):
So you have a set microphone. That's picking up your voice. The headset is just to talk with IRA.
Caller 10 (02:20:53):
You know, the headset is to talk to the audience and I average use the microphone from the headset. Cause I want Google
Leo Laporte (02:21:01):
Instead of your road. Microphone.
Caller 10 (02:21:05):
Yeah, microphone.
Leo Laporte (02:21:06):
So you'd only have one microphone. That's that's a, a good start by the way. Yeah. Multiple microphones gonna get, so there are lots of headsets that give you good quality audio. I wouldn't do Bluetooth if you could avoid it, but ideally you'd plug it into the pixel.
Caller 10 (02:21:26):
Yeah, I would.
Leo Laporte (02:21:27):
Cause then you don't have to worry about Bluetooth, but there are lots of good headsets. What do we use John these days? What do we recommend to people when they go out and buy headsets? The jabs? Yeah. The last time, you know, we keep changing, but the, and what model number do you know John? Was it the elite? Yeah, John job elite 75 or 85, 5 65 or 65. There's a jab or elite headset. There's something that go in the ear. You don't want that. You want the one that goes over your ears. And I think Jabber's probably the best. The evolved 2 75 is their new thing. I bet that's pretty good. That's pretty good. So take a look at the Jabra. J a B R a.com.
Caller 10 (02:22:17):
Awesome. I'll take a look at that. And then
Leo Laporte (02:22:19):
Those will give you the best. Those are good. The microphones are good. They're not great, but they're good. They'll give you good sound. They're over the ear headphones. That's what you want. Right? So you can have your hearing aids in. Yep. Yep. So you'll hear well. Yeah. I think those are, those are the ones to get the Java Java evolved to, these are brand new and they are wireless and they have a little charger that you put it on, which is nice. Okay. When you're so they're always ready to go. Okay. I think these actually look pretty good. Yeah. I bet they're expensive. You got anybody helping you out financially.
Caller 10 (02:22:54):
Well, that's why people buy pottery,
Leo Laporte (02:22:56):
Buy the pottery, buy the pots. I'm gonna go buy some more pottery.
Caller 10 (02:23:01):
The pottery essentially fund both my text stuff. And then also the lighter blind came. And so when you buy pottery, you're protecting the 253 million blind people from getting hit
Leo Laporte (02:23:13):
Potter. I I know you're awesome. Def blind potter.com. Buy this beautiful pottery, buy some pottery and help help Kelvin with these job, cuz they're probably expensive. But Jabber evolve. They have U S B a us C charging stand. No. Yes. Optimize for teams or unified communications. They look wireless though. Noise cancellation. Eight mic beam forming techno. Oh they don't do they have a boom? Yeah. They have a boom 36 hours single charge battery life. Yeah. These are gonna sound as good as any boom will sound. Don't get the charging stand. That's expensive.
Caller 10 (02:23:55):
They're is a donation by non-line Potter. So
Leo Laporte (02:23:57):
There we go.
Caller 10 (02:23:59):
Don,
Leo Laporte (02:24:00):
We'll kick some in for you.
Caller 10 (02:24:03):
All right.
Leo Laporte (02:24:03):
Pleasure talking to you, Calvin as always take so
Dick DeBartolo (02:24:05):
Much Kel
Leo Laporte (02:24:05):
Take care, right?
Caller 10 (02:24:07):
Like
Leo Laporte (02:24:09):
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls mad magazines. Mad red Dick beat doc holo is here.
Dick DeBartolo (02:24:20):
Oh yeah. What happened to the other guy?
Leo Laporte (02:24:23):
Well, I'm just, I am, I am ver clamp. I, I, I think we're gonna be the first to announce this brand new issue of mad magazine.
Dick DeBartolo (02:24:33):
Well that's actually, I, I had to find out what it was. It it's a special, that's only going to be sold at Barnes and noble. Oh, okay. Same ship. All treasured
Leo Laporte (02:24:44):
Trove of
Dick DeBartolo (02:24:44):
Trash. That's it.
Leo Laporte (02:24:47):
2 20, 22 yawns and babble edition. Yeah. Oh, so cool. Okay. So it's $10. That's why they're selling it in a real bookstore, but you know, Barnes and noble. I was in there the other day with the one in our local Barnes and noble in Santa Rosa. They've got magazine rack after magazine racks. There's people still making magazines I guess.
Dick DeBartolo (02:25:06):
Oh my gosh. They have a huge, huge now Matt's not in, in in there, but the specials are no, but yeah, they have boating magazines and training.
Leo Laporte (02:25:15):
It's amazing. Yeah. Yeah. Magazines have not gone away. I love it. It still sales says William M games, founder.
Dick DeBartolo (02:25:23):
It's great. Isn't
Leo Laporte (02:25:23):
It? Yeah. They should give him credit. Yeah. Yeah. It's long, long gone. Sad to say. But he was, he he's the man who made mad what it is today. And this guy kind of counts too for five decades. Mr. Dity Bartolo has Mr. Harmo has appeared in every single, I dunno today. I'm having a hard time with your name. I've only been saying it for 20 years. Dity Barto has been in every episode of every issue of mad magazine. This is
Dick DeBartolo (02:25:51):
The new one. Since, since yeah. That's the, that, there you go.
Leo Laporte (02:25:54):
Another revolting.
Dick DeBartolo (02:25:56):
So I had to look that up too, because the rock is in a new movie coming out like in a month or two and he plays a superhero and he joins other superheroes to stamp out evil. So that's
Leo Laporte (02:26:12):
All I know about. I thought it was a play on, can you smell what the rock is? Cooking and it's toast. But I guess that, that was,
Dick DeBartolo (02:26:19):
I, I think it's his, I think Alfred's trying to develop a superpower against,
Leo Laporte (02:26:24):
Oh, that's it. I
Dick DeBartolo (02:26:24):
Get it in a very, in a very bad way. He has
Leo Laporte (02:26:27):
The power to make his hair standing in, but you know what? Dwayne Johnson can't do that. So no. So Dick joins us every week. Not merely to talk about mad magazine. Although I always make him do that, but to share a Gimo or a gadget with us, that's why we call him our Gimo wizard. What is what is new in is with,
Dick DeBartolo (02:26:45):
I went to the car show the international.
Leo Laporte (02:26:48):
You don't even drive Dick.
Dick DeBartolo (02:26:51):
No, I, I have a license because you need one to cash checks, but
Leo Laporte (02:26:56):
Who
Dick DeBartolo (02:26:56):
Knew? Even I've owned 26 boats. I have never owned a car. Cause
Leo Laporte (02:27:01):
In this city you don't need to.
Dick DeBartolo (02:27:04):
Oh, in the city. You
Mikah Sargent (02:27:05):
Don't even need
Leo Laporte (02:27:06):
One. You don't want one.
Dick DeBartolo (02:27:07):
No, I I, I mean, when I walked a dog, people keep saying, are you going to a car? Will you be
Leo Laporte (02:27:13):
Leaving a oh, I know parking is insane.
Dick DeBartolo (02:27:17):
No, absolutely.
Leo Laporte (02:27:18):
So what'd you see it? You like the car?
Dick DeBartolo (02:27:20):
I, I went looking for weird. Okay.
Leo Laporte (02:27:23):
As usual.
Dick DeBartolo (02:27:24):
Yes. Okay. So I found the car it's called the ND one. I N D I the ND one. Yes, yes. And the man said to me, you are gonna love this car because in the backseat we have VR headsets. Ooh. With software, we have developed so that as you play the game, yeah. The motion of the car
Leo Laporte (02:27:51):
Makes you throw up. No in,
Dick DeBartolo (02:27:54):
But no, that was the funny thing he said. What, what research has found yes. Is playing video games in our car. People don't get sick.
Leo Laporte (02:28:02):
I have never been sicker in my life than playing car quake on a bus to work.
Mikah Sargent (02:28:08):
But if, if the car matches the motion of the vehicle in the game, oh
Dick DeBartolo (02:28:12):
You wouldn't. That is, that is correct. Isn't that is correct. I said like, if I'm riding a horse and the car makes a left turn, he said, yes, your horse blows your horse will go left my 35 miles per hour horse. Yeah. But Leah, what I thought was funny about this car is behind the steering wheel. Yeah. There's a little thing that I said to the woman, is that an iPad? And she said no people think it's an iPad or they think it's a tablet. The driver has this little dinky display. Yeah. The passenger actually, you, you are on the company's website and that the passenger has twin displays.
Leo Laporte (02:28:54):
Well, yeah. And this is the car for everybody. But the driver, it sounds like,
Dick DeBartolo (02:28:59):
Yes, that is exactly. Yeah. I, I thought it was kind of clever that everything is where the driver can't get to. Unfortunately,
Leo Laporte (02:29:06):
It's the driver that buys the car, but okay. That's true. That's fine. That that'ss true. So, so you have an entertainment display. It does look like an iPad. You have, I mean, a lot of
Dick DeBartolo (02:29:17):
There's a, there's a windows computer in there. I don't know if the guy works. It's the whole time I was sitting there, this guy was working away. He had his phone and was typing on the screen and that's
Leo Laporte (02:29:29):
Hysterical.
Dick DeBartolo (02:29:30):
So the thing to keep in mind is that they said delivery will be 12 to 18 months. Okay. And if you go on the website, you can put your name down.
Leo Laporte (02:29:45):
It's a good looking vehicle. I mean, is it electric?
Dick DeBartolo (02:29:47):
Yeah. Yeah. I, yeah. It's electric has a 300 mile range. Oh,
Leo Laporte (02:29:51):
Nice.
Dick DeBartolo (02:29:52):
I, I don't know. This sounds on the low side 95. Kilowat battery.
Leo Laporte (02:29:56):
No, no. Mine's 88 in my Ford. That's not. Oh my God.
Dick DeBartolo (02:29:59):
Oh, that piece of crap you drive.
Leo Laporte (02:30:04):
No, that's good. That's good. At 95.
Dick DeBartolo (02:30:06):
No, no Ford was there. Leah with the the lightning F
Leo Laporte (02:30:13):
Oh, the F-150 lightning truck. Oh yeah.
Dick DeBartolo (02:30:15):
Which has what is it? Reversible?
Leo Laporte (02:30:19):
Yeah. Power.
Dick DeBartolo (02:30:20):
So, so you can power your house from it. Exactly.
Leo Laporte (02:30:23):
Yeah. It's got an inverter on it, which means you can if your battery, if your power goes out, you can run your house off the battery in the truck. And it's such a big battery, you know, last a long time.
Dick DeBartolo (02:30:35):
This
Leo Laporte (02:30:35):
Is cool. I,
Dick DeBartolo (02:30:36):
The guy that's a hundred that's $90,000.
Leo Laporte (02:30:39):
Oh yeah. They're expensive. How much is the indie?
Dick DeBartolo (02:30:42):
This thing starts at 42,000.
Leo Laporte (02:30:44):
No, it's not bad for an electric vehicle.
Dick DeBartolo (02:30:46):
No. It seemed like any, anybody, the price, it seemed like the going range is around 40 to 90 for electric vehicles.
Leo Laporte (02:30:54):
Well, unless you get a Tesla and you can spend a lot more.
Dick DeBartolo (02:30:58):
Oh, okay. Yeah.
Leo Laporte (02:30:59):
Tesla, the Tesla I had, the model X I had was I think I, I leased it. So I, I don't, I think it was $130,000, but it had a 90 wat. Whoa. Yeah. I know. Isn't that crazy? It had a 90 kilowat battery. So this is, this is good. Yeah, this
Dick DeBartolo (02:31:13):
Is good. But you know, it's interesting that there's nothing. If your car breaks down, there's nothing you
Leo Laporte (02:31:19):
Can do with an electric car, right? No, I mean, you just in the old way and leave it there. What do you mean? There's nothing you can do. You can have a towed, but then you tell me that you couldn't even have a towed. Yeah. You can have a towed. You are you saying that if your car in the old days, when you had a car, which you'd never did when it broke down, you would just open the hood and fix something. Is that what you're saying? Outboard. Motor. Okay. If an, if an outboard motor broke down. Yeah. What would you do? I knew, I knew how to call my neighbor. Who was a mechanic? Well, the good news is electric motors. Rarely break down. They're very simple. Oh, okay. They're very, very simple compared to a gas motor. Okay. okay. If you wanna find out more about this and all the other stuff, this is not one I'll be running out to buy, but no, I, I didn't think so.
Leo Laporte (02:32:09):
Oh, this is my next vehicle. It was for sure. For sure. You like all the cameras inside so I can record my content. It's the influence cameras inside and out. Give Wiz and editing software.biz is the website G I ZW I Z dot B I Z. Check out the, what the heck is a contest to win an autograph copy of mad magazine with a rock on the front of it. Autograph by this guy, Dick D Bartolo. And there's also lots of other cool things on the website. GI wiz.is don't forget. His podcast is, was TV. Thank you. Dickie D okay buddy. Pleasure talking to you. Thank you. Thank you, Mikah Sargent. Sergeant. Really a pleasure to have you on the always good to be here. Saturday show. I wish you were here both days. We're gonna work on that. Anything you wanna plug?
Leo Laporte (02:32:57):
Oh, my shows iOS today, tech news weekly during the week come clockwise as well over on relay FM check 'em all out. He does a lot of shows. I do too many shows. He's a very busy fellow, but we love having you here. So thank you, Mike, as Sergeant, thanks to professor Laura, our musical director, Kim, Shaer our phone angel. Thanks to all of you who joined us today. We appreciate it. And we'll see you next time. Leo Laporte and mic as Sergeant the tech guys have a great geek week. Well, an and for the tech eye show for today. Thank you so much for being here and don't forget TWiT T w I T. It stands for this week@techandyoufinditattwi.tv, including the podcasts for this show. We talk about windows and windows weekly, Macintosh on Mac break, weekly iPads, iPhones, apple watches on iOS today, security. And now, I mean, I can go on and on and on. And of course the big show every Sunday afternoon, this week in tech, you'll find it all at twit TV and I'll be back next week with another great tech guys show. Thanks for joining me. We'll see you next time.
